Kona Ute

[onimity]

Doesn't that look like a *cool* bike? If I had room for another bike, that would be it. Maybe I'll sell my car. I'd bet it's actually pretty easy to haul 30 lbs on... maybe you can test ride one, Lisa.

Anne

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

Doesn't that look like a *cool* bike? If I had room for another bike, that would be it. Maybe I'll sell my car. I'd bet it's actually pretty easy to haul 30 lbs on... maybe you can test ride one, Lisa.

Anne

It'd be totally easy for me to haul 30 pounds around town on that bike on moderate rolling terrain. But no way could I get 30 pounds of stuff up my hill and home with that bike and those gears. I can barely get my "body groceries" up that hill even with my super low gear bike.
But yes I'd be happy to test ride one if you send it to me!

I love seeing bikes like this being made now. You know what it means? It means that people are starting to use their bikes more for every day living, errands and REAL transportation, rather than just for weekend hobby riding.
Every bike like this that gets used is one less nasty car on the road.

I love it! I also think it's a lovely looking bike. Good for Kona to make a people's bike for real world living.
Bikes love to work for us.

[7rider]

[QUOTE=Lisa S.H.;264445]It'd be totally easy for me to haul 30 pounds around town on that bike on moderate rolling terrain. But no way could I get 30 pounds of stuff up my hill and home with that bike and those gears. I can barely get my "body groceries" up that hill even with my super low gear bike.
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Good heavens, LisaSH....that Kona has a 26:32 low gear (~22 gear inches). What on earth is YOUR low gear on your Ramboullet that makes it easier to get up your hill vs. this (or are you just remarking on the weight of the bike)???

That said...someone at the LBS was talking about this bike, I think, on Sunday. He was commenting on a bike with an extra long back end, and I mentioned the Xtracycle that I've seen here (on TE), but he said "No." it was something different. I guess that something was this Kona. Neat.

[emily_in_nc]

Yes, you would be surprised what you can haul with a low-enough gear. Think loaded touring! I have pedaled in rolling hills with thirty pounds of groceries or gear in panniers (including the weight of two racks and four panniers), in my granny gear, and I'm tiny and not particularly strong. I have a 19" granny gear on my Bike Friday -- thank heavens! When we did a self-supported tour in upstate NY, there were some very steep climbs around the Finger Lakes. I walked a couple of the steepest ones, it's true, but not many, and only late in in a 60+ mile day.

The key is -- let your DH carry the heaviest stuff, be it groceries, tools (on a tour), etc.!

Emily

P.S. That's a VERY cool bike!

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

Good heavens, LisaSH....that Kona has a 26:32 low gear (~22 gear inches). What on earth is YOUR low gear on your Ramboullet that makes it easier to get up your hill vs. this (or are you just remarking on the weight of the bike)???

Well, I'll try to explain.
The reason I am not currently able to use this Kona to haul 30 pounds of groceries up my hill and home:
My rambouillet has a 24:34 low gear (19 gear inches) which I need to climb my home hill (and some other big hills around here) with. It is quite hilly where we live, and we were able to outfit my Ramb with the gears that enable me to ride through this beautiful countryside alongside my husband. We love to ride together. I regularly attempt to get up this particular hill in my next-to-lowest gear (which would be a gear fairly similar to the lowest Kona gear), and I have not been able to as yet.
I'm 53 and until 2 years ago never exercised a day in my life. I have ridden 3300 miles so far this year, and I see myself slowly getting stronger each month. I am confident that within another year or two of steady riding and hills I will be able to get up that hill and others just like it without resorting to my lowest gear...but I'm not there just yet. I use my lowest gear on a daily basis, -but never when I don't feel I really need it to make a climb. There are some big hills that I do indeed climb using a higher gear than I did a few months ago...but not that hill yet.
If you threw 30 pounds of cargo on my Rambouillet I doubt I could make it up my hill at all at this point in time, and that's in a lower gear than the Kona has. I'd go from a 2.5 mph climb to going backwards. I'm working as hard as I can, Regina!

[7rider]

Oh, no....Lisa!!! Please don't think I was questioning (or God forbid, slamming) your bike riding or questioning your gear choices! I've been reading about your riding for the past year and a half or so, and have been amazed and very impressed! I'm just used to a standard triple at 53/42/32, so to see a bike with a 26 (or a 24!) is ... well... it's "wow."
It's just my ignorance showing. Sorry!

[sandra]

May I show MY IGNORANCE? I don't even understand 26:32 or 24:34 or (19 gear inches). What does that mean? How do you know this stuff? Do they tell you when you buy your bike? Can I look at my bike and know?

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

May I show MY IGNORANCE? I don't even understand 26:32 or 24:34 or (19 gear inches). What does that mean? How do you know this stuff? Do they tell you when you buy your bike? Can I look at my bike and know?

Hmmm... the 24:34 means that your smallest front ring has 24 teeth and your largest back gear has 34 teeth.
When you are in your very lowest gear to go up the very steepest hill, then you'd need you chain to be on the smallest ring up front and on the largest gear in the back.
A bike with a smaller smallest front ring (like a 24 instead of a 26) can go up a steeper hill more easily (not talking the rider or muscles here, just gears). If that same bike had a bigger biggest gear in the back (like 34 teeth instead of 32) then that would add even more to the ability to spin up steep hills.
That's why a 24/34 bike would be able to go up steeper hills more easily than a 26:32.
However,to keep things in perspective, both these bikes in question have very low gears good for climbing, compared to road/racing bikes or cruisers.

[HillSlugger]

May I show MY IGNORANCE? I don't even understand 26:32 or 24:34 or (19 gear inches). What does that mean? How do you know this stuff? Do they tell you when you buy your bike? Can I look at my bike and know?

Sandra, the formula is you take the tooth number of the front chainring and divide it by the tooth number of the back cog to get the gear ratio. You can then multiple that by the diameter of your wheel in inches (generally near 27 for a 700c wheel) to get gear inches.

(24/34) x 27 = 19

I think I learned this last year from Sheldon Brown's website or some other website.

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

Oh, no....Lisa!!! Please don't think I was questioning (or God forbid, slamming) your bike riding or questioning your gear choices! I've been reading about your riding for the past year and a half or so, and have been amazed and very impressed! I'm just used to a standard triple at 53/42/32, so to see a bike with a 26 (or a 24!) is ... well... it's "wow."
It's just my ignorance showing. Sorry!

Oh, no, i was not taking your post in a bad way- don't worry!
Most people are amazed at just how low a gearing I have on my bike, and I am used to people wondering why I would need that. They are equally amazed (or maybe appalled) when they find out my average ride speeds. They don't quite get why I'd choose such gears. I take it all in good humor because I know if they were me and in my situation they would understand better and possibly do likewise.
I know you meant nothing at all bad. But it was very sweet of you to post such a reassurance to make sure i wasn't hurt or upset.
I LIKE talking about all this gear stuff, which I am only beginning to understand now myself! It's a happy learning journey for me which I hope will continue until I die.
I have come to the conclusion that many cyclists I communicate with are younger than me, live in flatter areas, and have been riding years longer than me or have done other sports all their lives. That's OK! I can then be someone that brand new or older riders can be inspired by!
It's all so good, and all the women here are so wonderful- including YOU!

I bet in a couple more years I'll be spinning groceries up my hill. ....maybe on a single speed (scooter)