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  1. #1
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    the effective top tube is longer on your new bike - and especially since you get comfortable when you straighten your elbows, I'd think that it might be a bit too long for you. You may be able to put a shorter stem on it, but definitely get a good fit on the whole bike. It sounds like its not properly set up for you anywhere...
    both bikes are "43cm" bikes, but the only thing that measures is seat tube, so I'm thinking your sales person just gave you the size you had without taking into consideration that the Giant has a more compact geometry compared to your Trek. A w2xs may have been a better fit for you, but is still longer than your current bike. If you can still trade it in, maybe think aobut talking to someone more knowledgeable about fit to make sure you have the proper size and trade it for a smaller one if you don't.

    *edit* - you may not be able to get a smaller size.... looks like the 2xs is only available in the OCR3 - humph, it always annoys me that they don't think small people might want a high end bike
    Last edited by Eden; 10-01-2007 at 10:58 AM.
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    It sounds as though you need to move your saddle forward. If you are having to push yourself back to get your sit bones on the widest part of the saddle, it must be too far back. Moving the saddle forward a bit will also help with the knee-over-pedal-spindle thing. A shorter stem and/or one with more rise would certainly help with reach to the bars. I don't think the sizing of the frame will be too far out (I'm 5'3" and used to have an XS OCR3 that I wouldn't have wanted any smaller), but you DEFINITELY need to take it back to the shop and get fitted properly!
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    Yes, please take it back to the shop and see if they can help fine tune the fitting. You might need a shorter stem too so you can sit a little more upright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eden View Post
    *edit* - you may not be able to get a smaller size.... looks like the 2xs is only available in the OCR3 - humph, it always annoys me that they don't think small people might want a high end bike
    Interestingly enough, the TCR Composite W, TCR A W, and TCR W come in xs, as well as the OCR 1 & 3 W, and the FCR 1, 2, & 3 W. Why the OCR AO W doesn't come in 2xs is beyond me - it seems kind of random which ones do and don't. I do notice that they got rid of the OCR Composite W this year. It had full Ultegra and came in 2xs. None of the women's bikes have full Ultegra this year. ???

    For me, at 5'2", it came down to a Giant 2xs and a Specialized women specific frame in the 47cm size. The Specialized won out, but both fits felt good - just something about the Specialized felt better to me (can't put my finger on it though). So, it sure doesn't seem right that a 43cm Trek and a xs Giant would be that close . . . ??? I did swap out the stem for an 80mm, the handlebars for 36cm, and the saddle for 130 (narrowest - although I kept the same model).

    The best money I spent was on a comprehensive fitting on a fit cycle. I highly recommend taking your bike in to a professional bike fitter to see if there is anything that can be done to improve the fit, and if there isn't, find out what size you need and trade that Giant in for the right size!
    Last edited by michelem; 10-01-2007 at 11:18 PM.

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    Are you sure about that? from what I can see on their web site the TCR Composit only goes to xs - only the lowest end bikes of each range appear to come in a 2xs.

    I also have the smallest Specialized frame - the eff top tube is shorter than ANY of the Giant bikes, which may be why it feels better to you. What it came down to for me was that it was pretty much the only non-custom high end bike that came in my size (this was in the 06 model year) so they've definitely won my loyalty.
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    Eden,

    This is from the TCR Composite W webpage: http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-US/...en/1245/29290/

    color Composite / Gold
    size 2XS*, XS, S, M *650C wheels
    frame fomulaOne Composite, Compact Road Design
    fork fomulaOne Full Composite, Alloy steerer
    handlebar Alloy Women's Anotomic Bend and drop, 31.8mm
    stem Race Face Cadence
    seatpost formulaOne Composite
    saddle WTB Deva Team
    pedals Crank Brothers Candy C
    shifters Shimano ST-R700 STI, short reach
    derailleur Front: Shimano Ultegra Rear: Shimano Ultegra
    brakes Shimano 105
    cassette Shimano 105 12- 25T, 10 speed
    chain Shimano 105
    cranks Shimano R700 compact, 34/50
    bb Shimano external
    rims 700C = Mavic Aksium 650C = ?
    hubs 700C = Mavic Aksium 650C = ?
    spokes 700C = Mavic Aksium 650C = ?
    tires Michelin Lithion 700x23c

    P.S. I edited my previous post before I saw yours. We probably hit send at the same time or something . . . I love my Ruby too.

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    ah - I was looking at the Geometry pages - the TCR Composit does not list 2xs under geometry, so now I wonder which is correct.....
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    I think they just messed up the Geometry page, 'cause this page shows the XS geometry for that bike:

    http://www.giant-bicycles.com/_uploa...TCR-C-W-08.pdf

    Regardless, I am disappointed that they've downgraded the components on the women's bikes this year.

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    Sounds like you might need a few changes. Saddle with a cutout could help, but you probably also need the handlebars higher/closer. When the leg is fully extended, the pedal is generally in front of the bottom bracket, so that part is nothing to worry about. However, things certainly need changing!

 

 

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