knee pain

[Wahine]

Overpronation causing tibial torsion? Weak hip external rotators causing femoral torsion?

Wahine?

And yeah, stop running for the moment. Since you can't go to a doctor for a few months (loooooove that for-profit medical insurance!! Paging Barak Obama and Hillary Clinton...) give those critters a rest and tell us more so we can come up with low-cost things for you to try in the interim.

Agreed and you have a nice post in one of the threads I linked to about that exact issue. It all comes back to foot mechanics and muscle balance. Knott and I agree on what's happening, she just tends toward the footsies first where as I tend toward the stretching of the hip girdle first. Not saying that one should come first and the other second, just saying we have different ways of seeing the same thing. A balanced approach would look at both.

I like to stretch first, TFL especially, then add strengthening of the hip external rotators as a bit of flexibility is gained. The Clam Shell exs is good for that. This link has a lot of good info on general knee alignment and also has a picture and explanation of how to do the exercise:

http://www.anaerobic.net/runnersguide.html

Don't worry about the fact that the web page is for ITBS, a lot of the same alignment issues apply to what Knott and I are talking about.

[KnottedYet]

Yeah, I have a thing for feet....

(hey, my new clinic is letting me go hog wild with orthotic business! Whooo-hoo!)

[Wahine]

Yeah, well I have a thing for bums and the hips that go with them.

[abvnx]

thanks everyone for all your help and responses.
we were in town last night so we stopped by the LBS and told them about my knee pain while biking. so they put me up on the trainer and found that my saddle was to low and my knees point in toward the bike. he raised the seat and it does feel better but i cant really tell until i go out for a longer ride.

as for running, its stopped for now(i havnt run for a few weeks now)
hubby is really into martial arts, it tends to be hard on his jonts so he takes glucosamine and msm. he wants me to take that stuff and stop the caffeine
right now i have a bag of frozen meatballs tied to my knee with one of hubbys socks and took some neproxin.so far its helping alot.

thanks again, ill keep yall posted.

[KnottedYet]

If your knees tend to roll inwards during your activities, you might want to consider two things: strengthening your hip external rotators (Wahine's interest) and Superfeet with maybe some medial wedges (my interest).

Better yet, do both!

The more, the merrier! It's all part of one kinetic chain anyway!

[sundial]

Aaaargh! I'm getting that stupid knee pain in my good knee.

It started yesterday, about 1 1/2 hrs into my ride. I'm keeping my cadence 85-90 and am staying in the middle chainwheel on the flats. It's on the lateral side of my left knee. I have raised my seat yet some more and it's still bugging me on the rides. With each ride, it's getting worse. Dang it! I was sidelined with this same problem and I blamed it on my other bike being too small. I guess it's iliotibial band? I have Specialized mtb shoes, Speedplay Frogs, and now this. Argh!

Would adjusting the cleat help? Or do I need to head to the ortho doc already?

I don't have any tears (at least it didn't show up in the MRI last year) in the meniscus.

[sundial]

hubby is really into martial arts, it tends to be hard on his jonts so he takes glucosamine and msm. he wants me to take that stuff and stop the caffeine

There is a wonderful product called Joint Juice that gives you 1500 mg glucosimine and 60% Vitamin C. It's endorsed by the Arthritis Foundation. It comes in 8 oz cans and it tastes a little like carbonated Gatorade. It's available in small packs of 4 cans or you can buy it in bulk at Sam's or Costco.

www.jointjuice.com

[abvnx]

There is a wonderful product called Joint Juice that gives you 1500 mg glucosimine and 60% Vitamin C. It's endorsed by the Arthritis Foundation. It comes in 8 oz cans and it tastes a little like carbonated Gatorade. It's available in small packs of 4 cans or you can buy it in bulk at Sam's or Costco.

www.jointjuice.com

thanks! i have a hard time swallowing pills so this will be of great help.
when i walked our dog this morning my knees were sore by the time i got to the end of the block.

hope your feeling better soon