Quote Originally Posted by abvnx View Post
its pretty much the whole knee that hurts, starting from about 2inches above the knee and 2-3 inches below. it feels kinda deep. if i sit in one position for a while the get sore. if its cold/damp they are sore most of the day and kinda it feels like i need to crack them. thanks
At risk of getting too personal, how old are you?

Sounds like arthritis. Could be patellofemoral arthritis but may also be general osteoarthritis. In which case you would want to stop running for now, concentrate on spinning on the bike - no big ring for you young lady, and stretch your hips out a whole bunch. I'll try to give you more later but I gotta go, paying patients waiting.