Abvnx - run a search on this site for knee pain. There are a lot of threads. Some of them are about pain in the knee cap area, some the outside of the knee. That might give you some info. If that doesn't work, I'd be happy to give you some pointers but I need more information, like where exactly in the knee is the pain, is it superficial or deep, what other activities bother it....
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its pretty much the whole knee that hurts, starting from about 2inches above the knee and 2-3 inches below. it feels kinda deep. if i sit in one position for a while the get sore. if its cold/damp they are sore most of the day and kinda it feels like i need to crack them. thanks
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OHHHH!! being a veteran runner and occasional knee pain sufferer I say GET THY BUM TO DOCTOR STAT! And stop running (for now).
My guess is that you prolly need a good bike fitting too. I was having horrible knee pain, had a good bike fit- cleats were WAY out of whack- and suddenly the pain went away.
BUT when you say the entire knee and feeling deep. Better get her looked at.
Also hopefully you can get to a doctor that is athletic and understands your desire to run, ride, etc. I walk out of any doctors office that says "just dont run. Running is bad for you".. While it may be hard on the joints and knees if done properly and in the proper shoes most people can run with no problem.
At risk of getting too personal, how old are you?
Sounds like arthritis. Could be patellofemoral arthritis but may also be general osteoarthritis. In which case you would want to stop running for now, concentrate on spinning on the bike - no big ring for you young lady, and stretch your hips out a whole bunch. I'll try to give you more later but I gotta go, paying patients waiting.
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Isn't there a genetic component to osteoarthritis?
I'll never forget when I had an MRI to diagnose knee pain and the diagnosis was arthritis.
Arthritis! How can this be?!
Arthritis is for old people!!
I think I was 40 at the time![]()
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Please, please, please don't just keep on going through your pain until you know what it is, what is causing it, and what you are doing to your joints.
In my 20's I ran and ran and ran, through the pain until I couldn't even walk anymore, thinking I was being strong, and also not wanting to give up the only thing that helped me feel sane in those days. I didn't go to the doc soon enough, because I didn't want to be told to stop.
I really damaged one knee, and it hurts to this day even to hike a little too much. (Thank goodness it works OK for biking when I keep the muscles built up!)
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Possible but not probable. It's more likely to be a patellofemoral tracking problem, especially if it's both knees and is of insidious onset. Having said that, it does sound a little weird and I would recommend getting it checked out when you have your insurance in place. It's not an emergency but you just want to be sure to rule out some weird arthritic process. Meanwhile, stop running and get stretching. Here are some threads and posts that may help.
http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showt...=tensor+fascia
http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showt...=tensor+fascia
Zen - OA does not have a definite genetic link in terms of the disease being passed along via the genes. However, since OA is a result of wear and tear on the joints some people argue that it can run in families because factors that affect cartilage health can be passed along through the genes making the joints more prone to OA. It could be familial due to lifestyle factors that are socially learned, for eg if your family skis all the time...all the family members may get early knee OA.
Rheumatoid Arthritis has a very well established genetic link.
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