Jett 130 and Zero and sit bone LUMP

[maillotpois]

Good wine, good beer, good chocolate...

It's all good!
And so good for you!

I always knew you were super smart!

My typo?

Yes. "Anyd Pruitt".

[SadieKate]

Oh, I must have re-named him while you weren't looking.

A little googling has determined that you probably have Weaver Bottom.

Inflammation commonly arises as a result of trauma or prolonged sitting on a hard surface (weaver bottom).

Pain may radiate down the back of the thigh and mimic sciatic nerve inflammation; however, it can be reproduced by pressure over the ischial tuberosity.

http://www.arthritis-treatment-and-r...treatment.html

Can I order a rug for the guest bath?

[SadieKate]

Uh oh. Read down farther in that link about Ischial Tuberosity Syndrome.

Ischial bursitis needs to be differentiated from ischial tuberosity syndrome. The ischial tuberosity is a swollen part or broadening of the bone in the frontal portion of the ischium, the lowest of the three major bones that make up each half of the pelvis. As the point of fusion of the ischium and the pubis, it is attached to various muscles and supports the weight of the body when one is sitting. Ischial tuberosity pain may be experienced by a wide range of athletes, including soccer players, cyclists, baseball players, figure skaters, cheerleaders and any type of jumpers or runners. It is often misdiagnosed as ischial bursitis, an extremely painful condition.

The ischial tuberosity is the point of origin of the adductor and hamstring muscles of the thigh, as well as the sacrotuberus ligaments. The forceful pull of these muscles, such as can happen during a variety of sports, as a result of a trauma such as a fall or other type of injury, or through the overuse of the hamstrings, as is common among runners and soccer players, results in a separation or detachment, also called an avulsion, of an open ischial apophysis.

[maillotpois]

Now I have butt tubers???

Okay, that's one to take to the doc. She's already written me off as some sort of medical anomaly.

ETA: I forgot to mention the bruising..... In the "crease" after long rides.

[KnottedYet]

Uh oh. Read down farther in that link about Ischial Tuberosity Syndrome.

If you had an avulsion you'd be having some really major issues. Contact your doc. Avulsions show up on xrays pretty well. (it's a hunk of bone that gets yanked out of your skeleton and retracts along with the detached muscle fibers. shows up well on films.)

Drink some wine, call the doc. give 'em a list of your worst and best case scenarios and a bottle of wine. Guaranteed excellent medical treatment. And keep us posted. I wanna know!

[KnottedYet]

Bruising?!?!

Well, that changes everything.

Now I blame a broken-down saddle. Your foot issues are just icing on the cake.

Time for a happy cushy new Terry! (and make your feet happy by trying your orthotics too)

[maillotpois]

Bruising?!?!

Well, that changes everything.

Now I blame a broken-down saddle. Your foot issues are just icing on the cake.

Time for a happy cushy new Terry! (and make your feet happy by trying your orthotics too)

Well, I'd think that but I did my brevets on one bike and my doubles on a different bike. Problem is the same for both bikes - same saddle but they're different "ages".

[maillotpois]

Thanks so much you guys. I really appreciate the input. I will make an appt with my doctor, and see what she says.

Knot - out of curiosity, how "major" would the avulsion issues/symptoms be?

[KnottedYet]

Knot - out of curiosity, how "major" would the avulsion issues/symptoms be?

Well, there'd be some bleeding. (are you still on anticoagulants?) The muscle would be inhibited. (which would lead to more imbalances and more irritations and more compensations) Depending on the size of the avulsion the chip itself might be sawing on soft tissue, causing your body to be inflamed there, and oh.... making a big lump. You'd also be in a lot of pain and probably unable to sit without more pain.

Definitely time to pay a friendly visit to the doc.

Once the problem is isolated the next step is figuring what the cause was in the first place. Without a trauma (did you crash? is it the older saddle?) to the ish tub, the likely root cause is an imbalance of forces acting on the ish tub.

[SadieKate]

So this is a good reason to do some real riding with us. Mtbiking gets you off the saddle!

Briones tomorrow - 180 ft/mile climbing.

[SadieKate]

MP, did you have this before Bend? Before any falls? Has it been slowly increasing or did it suddenly show up that week?

You mentioned it Saturday but I didn't have a chance to ask about when and the progression.

[maillotpois]

Oh no - I have had this since at least the 400k in April (maybe the 300 but memory fails). No falls. There is significant bruising down there after "long" rides, though.

[SadieKate]

So probably not sudden trauma. That's good.

[KnottedYet]

OOOOH! "Weaver Bottom" sounds so much more fun than "high hamstring strain!"

But how do you tell one from the other in a cyclist? Sitting on an inflamed hammie insertion (ischial tuberosity) would give you Weaver Bottom, too.

Hey, maybe you have BOTH!

A "high Weaver bottom strain."

I think the cure is good wine: "bottoms" up!

Edit: "hot foot" is often a product of pronation. (nerves get compressed in an over pronated foot) The metatarsal arch collapses when you pronate. So now I'm thinking a met pad and a medial forefoot wedge. And some exercises. And some wine...

[maillotpois]

Edit: "hot foot" is often a product of pronation. (nerves get compressed in an over pronated foot) The metatarsal arch collapses when you pronate. So now I'm thinking a met pad and a medial forefoot wedge. And some exercises. And some wine...

Whew! I'd better fill up. I'm running low.