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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by alpinerabbit View Post
    Actually tea with milk is less effective than tea alone.
    Sniffle...snifffle...bummer....and I thought it was such a great justification for the chai!

    Oh, well, then I guess I'll have to agree strongly with your statement, "I just don't know how important it is to always, always live healthily...."

    P.S. I loved the quote site...

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    I think the whole point of the Chocolate milk recovery drink is that it's an excuse to drink something you love. If you don't love chocolate milk, maybe there's something you do really like that fills the bill (or you could make it fit the bill ).

    I personally love the taste of Endourox R4 , which I usually use. My family think it tastes awful, and that I have lost my mind, but after a tough ride it's delicious to me. I find it also completely brings my appetite back to normal (from ravenous) and I don't eat huge ammounts of food 2 hours after a ride.

    Beer sounds good to me too - someone once suggested a shandy which is half beer half lemonade (may only taste good if you are in the UK). I find a beer after a ride makes me fall asleep almost immediately, which can be a good thing.

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    the carb to protein ratio in chocolate milk is what you need as a recovery drink. I drink low fat chocolate milk( i alternate between chocolate milk and hammer recoverite). The carbrotein ratio in lowfat chocolate milk is about 3:1

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    My teammate SWEARS by chocolate soy milk. That's all she drinks after a race! Seems to work well for her. Not sure if strawberry would do the same thing....
    ~Sarah~

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    I've also heard that the protein to carbohydrate ratio in chocolate milk is the right number. (I'm not sure what level of milkfat this applies to, or how rigorous the science behind this is though.)

    Personally, I love chocolate milk as a recovery drink after a really long run or ride (I don't do it after regular workouts). One of the local dairies here makes a really good organic chocolate milk- I can't imagine that any of those powdered recovery drinks would be anywhere near half as good.

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    Thanks for your input, peeps.

    I'll check out the nuitritional blurb of chocolate vs strawberry and see if any of the protein carb values are different.

    I'm particularly liking the chocolate & beer system for post-ride recovery. That's what you said, right?!
    Life is Good!

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    Hi Snappy, I love your avatar.

    I ran across this article on WebMD and wanted to share it with you guys.

    Chocolate Milk: The New Sports Drink?
    Study Shows Chocolate Milk May Help Athletic Performance
    By Richard Sine
    WebMD Medical News
    Feb. 24, 2006 -- During a 2004 Summer Olympics awash in controversies over steroids and supplements, one sportswriter wryly noticed that top American swimmer Michael Phelps was playing it safe -- he preferred to drink Carnation Instant Breakfast between races.

    Now it appears that the six-time gold medalist may have been onto something. A new study shows that plain old chocolate milk may be as good -- or better -- than sports drinks like Gatorade at helping athletes recover from strenuous exercise.

    The study, published in the International Journal of Sport Nutrition and Exercise Metabolism, was small in scale; it was partially funded by the dairy industry. But dietitians say the study should help to counter the notion that high-tech, expensive supplements are better than whole foods when it comes to athletic performance. They also note that milk contains key nutrients, such as calcium and vitamin D, in quantities that sports drinks can't match.

    "[Milk] is a sports drink 'plus,'" Keith Ayoob, EdD, a registered dietitian and associate professor of pediatrics at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine, tells WebMD. "It will supply you with things you need whether or not you're working out."

    The study builds on findings that intense endurance exercise reduces the muscles' supply of stored glucose, or glycogen, a key source of fuel for exercise. To maximize glycogen replacement, the American College of Sports Medicine and the American Dietetic Association recommend taking in a serving of carbohydrates within 30 minutes after a long and vigorous workout.

    Milk vs. Sports Drinks
    Common sports drinks such as Gatorade supply those carbs, as well as fluids and electrolytes lost through sweat. However, more recent research suggests that adding protein to the mix may further hasten recovery. Hence the new wave of drinks such as Endurox R4 that include protein as well as higher doses of carbs.

    In the study, nine male cyclists rode until their muscles were depleted of energy, then rested four hours and biked again until exhaustion. During the rest period, the cyclists drank low-fat chocolate milk, Gatorade, or Endurox R4. During a second round of exercise, the cyclists who drank the chocolate milk were able to bike about 50% longer than those who drank Endurox, and about as long as those who drank the Gatorade.

    The findings suggest that chocolate milk has an optimal ratio of carbohydrates to protein to help refuel tired muscles, researcher Joel M. Stager, PhD, Indiana University kinesiology professor, tells WebMD.

    But the most puzzling result of the study, experts say, was why Endurox -- which has the same carb-to-protein ratio as the chocolate milk -- fared so poorly. Researcher Jeanne D. Johnston, MA, tells WebMD it may have to do with the different composition of the sugars in the milk. Another theory is that the sugars in the milk may be better absorbed in the gut than those in the Endurox.

    Edward F. Coyle, PhD, a researcher on exercise and hydration at the University of Texas, tells WebMD the trial would have been stronger if the researchers had also tested the effect of flavored water or another dummy (placebo) drink.

    The study was partly funded by the Dairy and Nutrition Council, an industry group. Coyle says that the study's reliance on industry funding is not unusual in the world of sports research, as federal funding for such research is hard to come by.

    A Cheaper Alternative?
    While rapid nutrient replacement may not be important for casual exercisers, it can make a big difference in performance for competitive athletes who work out vigorously once or twice a day, says Roberta Anding, a sports dietitian and spokeswoman for the American Dietetic Association.

    Anding has long recommended chocolate milk for young athletes who come to her practice at Texas Children's Hospital in Houston. For children and teenagers from lower-income families, it doesn't make sense to spend serious money on sports drinks when they can get milk as part of a subsidized lunch program, she tells WebMD. The only advantage of sports drinks, she notes, is that they never spoil.

    Ayoob estimates that more than two-thirds of teenagers should be drinking more milk anyway because they don't get enough calcium in their diets. He also recommends milk for its vitamin D and potassium content. "For me, this is a no-brainer," he says.

    SOURCES: Karp, J. International Journal of Sport Nutrition and Exercise Metabolism, 2006; (16: 78-91). "Nutrition and athletic performance -- Position of the American Dietetic Association, Dietitians of Canada, and the American College of Sports Medicine," http://www.eatright.org/cps/rde/xchg...l/adap1200.cfm. Svrluga, Barry, "Olympics Swim Trials,""Olympics Swim Trials," Washington Post, July 13, 2004. Jeanne Johnston, department of kinesiology, Indiana University at Bloomington. Joel M. Stager, PhD, department of kinesiology, Indiana University at Bloomington; Keith Ayoob, EdD, RD, associate professor of pediatrics, Albert Einstein College of Medicine. Edward F. Coyle, PhD, professor, kinesiology and health education, University of Texas. Roberta Anding, clinical and sports dietitian, Texas Children's Hospital, Houston.
    © 2006 WebMD, Inc. All rights reserved.

 

 

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