Switched from Keos to Frogs

[Zen]

Knott, did you get your monthly check from Speedplay yet?

[KnottedYet]

I'm still waiting....

[KnottedYet]

Teigyr - Frogs work kind of like a jar and a lid.

The pedal is the jar, and the cleat is the lid.

To get out of them you "unscrew" the lid by moving your heel outward. No tension, no moving parts.

The nifty thing is if you start to fall you will instinctively push your foot toward the ground, which "unscrews" the cleat and you are free!

If you can get someone to show you how they work, it will make more sense than my description. Wanna ride this weekend, and I'll show you?

[Trek420]

Knott, did you get your monthly check from Speedplay yet?

Yep, monthly Frogs and Wool commission.

[Ninabike]

Teigyr, I had all the same concerns you have, and I didn't want to put out a whole lot of money for shoes and pedals without knowing if I would like them, or if I would be giving up too much of the advantages of Looks - platform size, stiffer sole of the road shoe, etc. However, I must say that I am very happy with the switch to Frogs. My feet feel "freer"; not so locked in. At first, I felt like the platform was kind of small, but I think this was more the fact that there is more float than I was used to. After I had been riding for about 5 minutes, I really forgot about about all that, and didn't really notice any difference in the platform size or the fact that I was wearing mountain shoes. I felt like I had the same amount of force on the pedals; could pull up on the pedals, stand when climbing, etc. The best part is being able to step off the bike without sliding on the cleat, especially on a downhill slope. I don't think you would be disappointed if you made the switch. Before clipless pedals, I used to ride with toeclips and metal cleats (old style road shoes) with no float at all so my feet were really locked in. Look Keos have a fairly tight spring also and I was so used to that that now, I really feel "liberated" with the Frog pedals.

[madscot13]

the nice man at the bike shop said that the Sidi dominators and Genius are the same shoe with basically a cleat tread and the other without.

[teigyr]

Thank you

The jar and lid description makes perfect sense. What sways me more than anything are all the testimonials, checks nonwithstanding. I really like the Looks but alas, there are flaws.

Knot, PM is on its way

p.s. I might be confused...Speedplay is Frog. But are Frogs Speedplay? I'm seeing Speedplay pedals with no mention of Frog. And are all the pedals the same with the exception of weight and material?

[KnottedYet]

Speedplay is the brand. They make lots of different kinds of pedal. Even flats!

Frog is one of their models. It started life as a mtb pedal, but so many people put it on their road bikes that it's really not in any category anymore.

www.speedplay.com