Need New Shorts

[Velobambina]

V--I have the Exte Ondos. Those aren't good for long, long rides. The chamois is the same as in the Bera knickers, if I'm not mistaken. I think, mile for mile, you'll get more bang for your buck out of another pair of the LG shorts.
I've become a bibs convert, but I still treasure my two pairs of Wicked Expensive LG shorts.

[Veronica]

I think, mile for mile, you'll get more bang for your buck out of another pair of the LG shorts.
I've become a bibs convert, but I still treasure my two pairs of Wicked Expensive LG shorts.

I'm still looking for the magic of my first LGs. The two pairs I have are good, but not outstanding.

So I've heard enough to rule out the Descentes and the EOs and to add the Hincapies into the mix. I'm not the one who is unemployed, so maybe I deserve two pair of shorts.

V.

[yellow]

Martha has and loves the Adidas Adistar bibs (they also make a short). And, well, you know Martha.

(this link may not take you directly to the shorts..the fancy website doesn't have just normal links...and I can't find a picture of the chamois...and the US website doesn't have cycling apparel, so I guess I'm really no help at all. )

[Susan Otcenas]

V-

Of the 3, I have the Descente and the Sugoi. I love love love the Sugoi. The 2007 RS is worn by almost every woman in this office, with great success even though we are all different shapes and sizes. The fabric is light and oh so breathable. Fabulous on a hot day. And the chamois is top notch.

On the Descente - we sell a fair number of these as well (in fact we are out of several sizes right now) but our internal fit testing on this one is mixed. In the smaller sizes, it seems like the rise is a little low. I didn't find that to be true in my size (XL), but it's worth mentioning nonetheless. A common comment here in the office was that the chamois seems to be positioned a little farther back than on many other shorts. So it's not even visible on the front, but comes up a little high on the back. Again, YMMV as there are women in the office who are quite fond of this short. Fortunately, one of those wears the same size as me, which is good because I'm going to give her my pair, as I'm in the "chamois-too-far-back" camp.

I confess to not having worn the Etxe Ondo short yet. Renata here at TE has a pair of the knickers with the same chamois, but she's not ridden more than 50 or 60 miles in them. They were great at that distance.

I'm also quite fond of Gore's Ozon Short - http://www.teamestrogen.com/products.asp?pID=26192 Nice chamois (dense but not thick), supportive fabric, no elastic at the front of the waist (useful if you sometimes suffer "gastric issues" from long rides with too many supplement drinks), and a soft-touch leg gripper. I'm considering bringing these in in solid black to go along with the blue and white. My pair is all black and I really like them.

Hope this input helps.

Susan

[Veronica]

Thanks Susan! I ordered the Sugois yesterday, along with an SPF jersey so I can cover up my owie.

I'll be sure to post how they do over the long haul.

V.

[Velobambina]

The fabric in the Sugoi's---is it denser than the 2006 model? I love those shorts, but I found the fabric to be a little too sheer for my taste (they are great for wearing on the trainer, with just my husband and dogs around!). I was tempted to get the 2007 edition but decided not to because I was worried they might be too sheer.

If you get the Gores in solid black, I will be tempted to get a pair. Even though I'm a bibs girl now, I'm not averse to having some regular shorts. The chamois in these looks different from those in the windstopper full bib tights (which I just LOVE---keep me warm in the worst of the winter cold/wind). How does it compare to the chamois in the tights (I believe it was red fabric)?

[Susan Otcenas]

2006 & 2007 have the same fabric. We have, on occasion, had a few people mention they feel it is a little sheer. It's not a common complaint though, and it's still one of our best-selling high end shorts. But certainly, it is airier than some of the other high end shorts we sell. Benefit or disadvantage? Depends on your personal preference. I love them, especially this time of year.

The Ozon shorts have a completely seamless chamois. See: http://www.teamestrogen.com/referenc...ls.asp?ID=ozon lady chamois

I haven't worn the bibtights myself, or any other Gore bottom with that chamois, so I can't make a direct comparison for you. But here's a photo for your reference. see: http://www.teamestrogen.com/referenc...sp?ID=advanced lady chamois

Hope that helps.

Susan