The Holstein is a nice ride, and isn't usually hotter than h*ll.

Bend? I was thinking of touring in WA/OR this year, but it's a little pricey for the underemployed among us (like me) to do this too.

I still like the idea of an existing organized ride because they're usually only $30 or so, food (often quite good) is provided, there are several course lengths, and there's SAG support.

But... on the other hand, a ride of our own does sound cool. (Isn't this how new organized events get started? 5 years from now we'll be turning registrants away )