Landis Hearing

[IFjane]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...y07/may24news2

[bmccasland]

So maybe there could be a ladies Tour de France? At the rate the pro riders are hitting the confessional and admitting that they doped in their past attempts for greatness, there'll be room for new clean riders to fill in. TE could fill the void!

ummm, might be a problem, I think my asthema medicines are steriods., so I'm out. And I do take them because I want to be a better rider Does it count when you take medicine to try to bring lung function UP to "normal?"

What the boys have been up to is really sad. Sad for them, sad for the sport.

[RoadRaven]

Well said equus... wish you had been in the courtroom, commentating for us!
Sssssso funny!


And thanks for all the links to women's cycling ladies - I'm bookmarking this thread...!

bmcca... you could get a special certificate to ride with your meds, our Floyd (I still believe) rode despite the pain killers and meds he was on for his hip!

[RoadRaven]

So maybe there could be a ladies Tour de France? At the rate the pro riders are hitting the confessional and admitting that they doped in their past attempts for greatness, there'll be room for new clean riders to fill in. TE could fill the void!

If selected, I will wear the "Red Lantern" with pride

[PinkBike]

at one time there was a women's tour
http://www.topendsports.com/events/t...ance/women.htm

to erik zabel: say it aint so

[Kitsune06]

Do you ever really hear that much about female dopers in the sport?

[equus123]

Do you ever really hear that much about female dopers in the sport?

no! nothing! i find it weird and interesting. it seems as if men's and women's cycling are almost two different sports anyway. now with the doping situation, it seems even moreso. don't you think? oh those boys...

[missymaya]

Disclaimer:Saying this as somebody who's been riding less than 2 years and just now realized that she wants to race and doesn't know too much on the racing end(so what I'm saying might not be right):
There could be less women in cycling who dope because it's not as competitive i.e., as many participants, sponsors, televised and promoted, in the public. Maybe the women who compete at that level are just trying to get the sport moving and keep the momentum, promoting to an audience who is just now embracing it (the general public). Men's cycling is heavily promoted, has lots and lots of participants, and people all over see at as a popular sport and supports it. Look at the Tour de France: The Men's tour is televised and talked about, even amongst popular sports stations like ESPN and then there was the Women's tour, which lasted for not that long and not nearly as popular amongst the general public or popular sports stations. So, the need to win is still pretty big for the women, but there's also a need to promote the sport in general, due to the lack of popularity and doping would only hinder that tremendously.
That's just from where I'm standing and I could be wrong. Hopefully that helps.
But, the whole doping thing just sucks 'cause it makes all racers look bad and this case is just making that worse. We need to draw the line on doping in all sports aka no doping!

[snapdragen]

Do you ever really hear that much about female dopers in the sport?

I do, but I don't remember her name. I'll have to see if I can find it.

[RoadRaven]

I almost wish this thread could be split - the Landis thread, and the Women's pro-cycling thread.

Both are great convos!

So here first... women's cycling and my 2cents

Re women's cycling not being so obvious in the public eye - we are fighting (in the Western world at least) a loooong social history of how women are perceived. And that takes time to change. And even longer, apparently, for media and advertisers to think they have to 'get with the programme' too.

Women's sports rarely set "world fastest times", they tend to set women's bests. No women will ever match O'Bree's 1 hour record - probably not even with the use of drugs. No women will ever ride in a team with men like Lance and Floyd. Our physiology is just too different.

And this is the crux of the issue, I believe.

Media believe they should portray the best, and til they are willing to take a chance and realise that there is a big following of men and women for womens sports, we wont see it "out therre". And to make the following bigger, it needs to be supported by media. Catch 22.