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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Silver View Post

    I'm on a rural road that is usually crawling with cyclists and a woman is backing out of her gravel driveway in her SUV - fast and without looking. Seeing what's about to happen, I managed to slow down from 27mph without hitting the gravel or the car.
    ......What would you have done??????[/COLOR]
    What would I have done? Truthfully?...I would have been EXPECTING someone to back out of their driveway fast without looking.
    Not trying to be facetious here, Mr. S, but if you are going 27mph down a street with driveways, you have to EXPECT cars to be coming out of them, and you have to EXPECT that some of those cars won't see you coming.
    This is the ony way you are going to stay alive on your bike...always assume a car will be coming out of a side street or a hidden drive, and never go faster than you would be able to safely stop when one does pullout in front of you. And they WILL pull out right in front of you, regularly.
    Be one step ahead of them. Assume cars will be coming out blind and assume they don't see you and bike accordingly. Don't depend on dumb & blind drivers to do the right thing and keep you safe. Ultimately, your safety is up to YOU.
    I for one want you to be around for a long time to come.
    Slow down, anticipate, and always try to be one step ahead of the morons. They are everywhere, and they won't go away.
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  2. #2
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    oooooooooooooooooo good answer Lisa!
    Mimi Team TE BIANCHISTA
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  3. #3
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    I agree with Lisa 150%, ALWAYS ASSUME that the drivers will do something stupid like that. To me it's a rule when riding in NY areas where drivers could be very $%^&**&^. The fact that you managed to stop going at 27mph says that you have good riding skills, however there are times when hit/fall is just unavoidable because one is riding that fast. Be safe, stay ALIVE, I am sure many people would appreciate it (Silver for sure)

    P.S. congruts on all your achievements this year!!!
    Last edited by FreshNewbie; 04-18-2007 at 11:22 AM.

  4. #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa S.H. View Post
    What would I have done? Truthfully?...I would have been EXPECTING someone to back out of their driveway fast without looking.
    Not trying to be facetious here, Mr. S, but if you are going 27mph down a street with driveways, you have to EXPECT cars to be coming out of them, and you have to EXPECT that some of those cars won't see you coming.
    This is the ony way you are going to stay alive on your bike...always assume a car will be coming out of a side street or a hidden drive, and never go faster than you would be able to safely stop when one does pullout in front of you. And they WILL pull out right in front of you, regularly.
    Be one step ahead of them. Assume cars will be coming out blind and assume they don't see you and bike accordingly. Don't depend on dumb & blind drivers to do the right thing and keep you safe. Ultimately, your safety is up to YOU.
    I for one want you to be around for a long time to come.
    Slow down, anticipate, and always try to be one step ahead of the morons. They are everywhere, and they won't go away.

    Thank you, Lisa! This goes back to the ride where Mr. was so offended with me because I told him that I wouldn't ride with him if he rode like he was riding. I tried to explain that some rides were more suited for leisure and some for speed. neighborhoods - leisure, empty rural roads - speed.
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    I wonder--what if you'd been in a car? Would she have just plowed out into you? I think I'd have actually stopped and spoken to the husband and let him know that if you'd been a few seconds ahead of where you were, that she could have killed you. The laughter would have infuriated me, and I would not have been able to ignore the incident.
    Tis better to wear out than to rust out....

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    You forgot option D: Falling to the ground dramatically, getting up holding an "injured" body part, and telling them they better have good insurance as you call your lawyer.
    "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There's something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." -- Bill Nye

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    When I was learning to drive many moons ago, my late father had this piece of advice for me:

    "Always stay two jumps ahead of the traffic", in other words, anticipate what might happen.

    Wise words and good advice from a driver of 40 years who never had an accident.
    There are a lot of unwanted, unloved bikes out there - go on give a bike a good home

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    Quote Originally Posted by Python View Post
    When I was learning to drive many moons ago, my late father had this piece of advice for me:

    "Always stay two jumps ahead of the traffic", in other words, anticipate what might happen.

    Wise words and good advice from a driver of 40 years who never had an accident.
    not to mention a driver that is always on the wrong side of the road!
    Mimi Team TE BIANCHISTA
    for six tanks of gas you could have bought a bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mimitabby View Post
    not to mention a driver that is always on the wrong side of the road!
    Well, us Brits like to be different LOL
    There are a lot of unwanted, unloved bikes out there - go on give a bike a good home

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanna View Post
    You forgot option D: Falling to the ground dramatically, getting up holding an "injured" body part, and telling them they better have good insurance as you call your lawyer.
    LOL! I almost used this one recently (well, I guess I'd be calling myself...) A stock person in the local Whole Foods clobbered me with a door (I wasn't standing in front of it - he swung it way past "open" and seriously did knock me down). As I picked myself up off the floor, he said "you shouldn't have been standing there - didn't you see the sign, you idiot." Yes, the manager did get a call explaining the situation and suggesting that perhaps that employee needed a little more training in the personal skills department.

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    I can't believe the employee called you an idiot. What an idiot-that should get him fired, or at least on probation.
    "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There's something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." -- Bill Nye

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanna View Post
    You forgot option D: Falling to the ground dramatically, getting up holding an "injured" body part, and telling them they better have good insurance as you call your lawyer.
    This would have been very fun!!!!

    I chose Response "C". I've been practicing patience at Silver's request.


    Clarification: It wasn't a neighborhood, but a rural area where houses are on 5 to 10 acre lots. No traffic, but lots of bikes.
    If you don't grow where you're planted, you'll never BLOOM - Will Rogers

 

 

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