First ride on my Brooks B17, ouch.

[stella]

Stella, I called and spoke with Diane, not sure why but she wasn't really helpful. She told me that Team pro S is the same saddle as B17S only with chrome rails. Maybe I should try the presoftened Team pro S?

FreshNewbie: I am sorry that you are having that experience with Diane. I only know that, for me, the team pro S did the trick. The only soreness I had was the usual 'out of shape' soreness.

the pain you are experiencing--I've had that, too. I can't use a cut out anymore.