Fred?

**BleeckerSt_Girl** · 03-26-2007, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Silver

So, is the 50%/50% experience common or unusual to my area?

It's not unusual....but wait! Don't assume they are being rude! It's quite possible that these poor roadies are struggling mightily to keep up with their group and impress each other- struggling so hard, in fact, that they become totally absorbed in their own private agony. Don't resent them, instead, they need your sympathy and understanding!

Too funny about the Ivory and the Safeguard...

**aicabsolut** · 03-26-2007, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by Lisa S.H.

OK, I am SO Fred that I don't even know why either of these things are "Fred"!!!

I understand the bathroom ease of wearing your bibs outside your jersey, but it's like wearing your underwear on the outside.

As for the TT bike...the setup was screaming hotshot OCP cyclist, but why worry about shaving off a few grams here and there and getting more aero with all your gear if you're, presumably, going to be switching into the granny gear for a TT not involving anything approaching a mountain.

As for the camelbak, someone DID race with one on Sunday. And she almost beat me!

Of course, I have a "dork disc," stock wheels, and my bottle cages aren't carbon.

**Tuckervill** · 03-26-2007, 05:27 PM

Dawn dish detergent takes off the tattoos!

Simple Green does, too.

Karen

**kelownagirl** · 03-26-2007, 05:42 PM

I guess I am fred too because I don't even understand why a triple and TT gear is bad? Is a triple fred-like? I WISH I had more gears on the triple on my road bike, especially on the last hill home....

I like my visor because I can't wear sunglasses.

I still have the cheater pedals on my clipless pedals.

Mr. Silver - I only smile and say hi to half the people I meet but only because I'm shy, and/or I'm so focussed on climbing a hill or keeping up with DH.

**silver** · 03-26-2007, 05:47 PM

Ok, I think the Fred thing about the triple in the TT is this.....The cyclist was gone to great lengths to make himself as light and aerodynamic as possible but he's got extra weight on the bike in the triple cassette that he doesn't need. I believe that in general, Serious "elitist" roadies would consider using a triple as Fred.

I think....

**Batbike** · 03-26-2007, 05:57 PM

I don't think it is a FRED-thing to wear a visor on a helmet ... there is a VERY practical reason why visor's are not advised with road bikes, assuming the drop bar position, because you are lower on the handlebars and with a visor on your helmet, it forces you to lift your neck higher, causing possible excess muscle neck strain or shoulder strain ... on mountain bikes, you are more upright and it is not a problem.

A cycling cap under a helmet is advised for road riding because the cap bill is smaller than a visor but can still shield sun, rain, heat, etc., but not force a road cyclist to lift neck up as far ... so is the theroy.

IMO ... Fred is fun and willing to take a chance to PROVE cycling elite is NOT "all that" ... individuality and showing who is "boss" is ALL THAT -- that is why FRED doesn't conform to cycle elite protocal, but will happily wear white tube socks with a chainring tattoo, a tucked-in jersey, and flatfoot pedals, all the while LEAVING the peloton in the dust ... you gotta LOVE FRED!

**PinkBike** · 03-26-2007, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by GLC1968

Of course, this is pretty funny coming from a guy who is well over 250 lbs and yet rides on fancy racing wheels to save weight.

this always cracked me up, a guy i knew who was always bragging about buying new stuff to shave a few grams off his bike and he also carried about 50 extra pounds on his person.

but y'know what? to each his own, he had the same amount of pride in his bike and his riding as anyone else, so who am i to demean him? i'm sure people think i'm touched to spend so much time and money and energy on my bike when i'm not near racing caliber. but i just totally enjoy it.

i'm thrilled when i see ANYBODY out riding. i think "you go girl!" and wish them every happiness like i get from my bike.

so i'm fred. but i'm way happy.

**Trekhawk** · 03-26-2007, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by aicabsolut

As for the TT bike...the setup was screaming hotshot OCP cyclist, but why worry about shaving off a few grams here and there and getting more aero with all your gear if you're, presumably, going to be switching into the granny gear for a TT not involving anything approaching a mountain.

Perhaps he doesn't intend on using the granny in his TT but cant afford a separate bike for this discipline. Maybe his one bike has to fit all riding situations. If people are riding and having fun then thats all that matters at least to me.

**BleeckerSt_Girl** · 03-26-2007, 06:40 PM

Can someone please explain to this clueless Fredette what the heck TT and OCP means??

(top tube? obsessive compulsive paceline?...)

**solveig** · 03-26-2007, 06:42 PM

This thread makes me laugh because:
Not only can I never make it back from a ride without a chainring blob (from getting out the door, getting the bike on the rack, or just leaning the thing wrong when I stop)...

but I ride with two mismatched shoes (one Sidi, black w/ red & yellow highlights, and one royal blue Specialized)...the result of 2 very different foot sizes and a puny budget that only allows purchasing on Ebay!

But my shoes make me smile every day!

**KnottedYet** · 03-26-2007, 07:14 PM

I am Fred, hear me roar!
I ride my bike, that's what it's for!

(ok, someone post the next rhyming couplet)

**Fredwina** · 03-26-2007, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by Lisa S.H.

Can someone please explain to this clueless Fredette what the heck TT and OCP means??

(top tube? obsessive compulsive paceline?...)

Close
TT = Time trail - form of racing where you race by yourself (vs in a pack) for best time over a course riders usually start a minute apart
OCP _ obsessive compulsive poser an example would be someone with a Trek Madone, full Discovery Channel kit (outfit), down to gloves and helmet, but gets dropped within a block on a group ride

**Mr. Bloom** · 03-26-2007, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by KnottedYet

I am Fred, hear me roar!
I ride my bike, that's what it's for!

(ok, someone post the next rhyming couplet)

White tube socks keep ma' legs clean.
Tucked in shirts keep some parts from bein' seen.

**silver** · 03-26-2007, 08:18 PM

I wear my visor to protect my face
And turn up the elastic when I race.

**KnottedYet** · 03-26-2007, 08:22 PM

I remember reading an article in Bicycling about 20-25 years ago where the writer was describing a "Fred" (not the term he used, though) he encountered on his ride who was wearing BLACK socks. Cuz then white sox were fashionable, so black socks were the faux pas.

Mr. Black Socks kicked the author's butt, so he was appropriately chagrined for judging someone based on their appearance.

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