I have not tried either of those. I am very disappointed that my LGs from last year did not stay comfy an entire season. Bear in mind, those shorts were awesome for my first double and it rained buckets.

I have a pair of Assos knickers. I like them pretty well - wore them yesterday for 112 miles. if the weather is iffy, I'll wear them for the 300 K next week. The chamois does creep around a little bit on me though.

Given those two short choices - I'd probably get the Castellis myself.

V.