In that case a Rivendell would not work for me. I'm a perfect example of why the 1 size fits all philosophy doesn't work, even with bicycle fitting.

My old mtn bike has a 72.5 degree seat tube angle. When I ride it I'm mostly on the nose of the saddle. With a zero degree seatpost and my saddle all the way forward I still can't get centered on the bike. If I sit on the saddle the way I'm supposed to I can't don't get good power on the pedals. If I move forward on the saddle to get centered on the bike, I'm on the nose.

On my bikes with the steeper seat tube angles I have no issues of where my body is. Someone told me one time that the body seeks a neutral position on the bike. The only way I can get that position is with a steep seat tube angle.

That's why generalizations can't be made about women's fit, we're all different
and that's why some women have problems with WSD bikes, they don't fit the standards that bike companies have come up with.