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  1. #31
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    The more I see of this whole mess, the more I feel sorry for the baby. How could she ever have a normal life?

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    I saw this break on our morning news last week, even saw the press conference. Seems as though noone knows anything.

    I've always tried to turn off the TV or change channels when someone like her came on, INFAMOUS rather than famous. (same goes for Paris Hilton... and this crop of gossip mag "A-listers" who I honestly don't care about their shananigans.

    However I do feel for her daughter. The poor baby is going to grow up and one day stumble upon all these old media reports about her mum. AND not be able to talk to her about it to get the "why she did it" side out of her. She can't even talk to her brother!

    I hope Anna Nicole finds peace because she certainly didn't have it while she was alive.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadie gal View Post
    The more I see of this whole mess, the more I feel sorry for the baby. How could she ever have a normal life?
    It's a sad thing to say, but she may have more of a chance at a normal life now, once the media circus goes away, than she would have had if her mother had lived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridethewind View Post
    It's a sad thing to say, but she may have more of a chance at a normal life now, once the media circus goes away, than she would have had if her mother had lived.

    Jean
    Sadly, it's hard to believe the baby will even be normal, considering all the alcohol, pills, drugs, and crash diets her mother has been on for years. Seems to me her mother was so completely out of control with substance abuse that it's pretty unlikely she was "clean" all through her pregnancy. All these things certainly effect a developing baby in utero.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsune06 View Post
    ....would trek be okay with that, Knot?
    I think Trek would make an excellent co-mom.
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    That's good to know Duck because while everyone is looking all over the place for Anna Nicole's baby don't tell anyone but secretly I'm the father and have the kid right here shhhhhh.
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    i knew it!
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    This whole circus about that poor self-abusing woman is so sad and lame.

    Today's headlines happened to be positioned right next to each other in the "entertainment news" webpage:

    Battle Over the Body
    and
    Beyonce's Bangin' Body in Bikini

    The first article concerning the battle over who gets to have former Playmate Anna Nicole's now slowly decomposing body to bury.
    The second article about singer Beyonce's bikini pictures on the cover of Sports Illustrated.
    Apparently a woman's body is a hot commodity whether it's alive or dead.

    It is unbelievable to me how pathetic and distorted our country's culture is when it comes to women's bodies. Whatever happened to women as whole human beings?- are only their bodies worthy of marketing these days?
    So sad. And what kind of message does all this send to young people?
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    It's a truly screwed up society where the absolute worst thing one girl can say to another is "you're fat" and the worst thing one boy can say to another is "you're gay".

    It's up to us, the adults, to change this. We have to stop obsessing about our weight and focus on health, we have to let people know it's NOT ok to say "that's so gay" when referencing something negative. We have to set the example that treating each other with kindness and respect is the expected behavior.

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    I work with teenagers often, and I'll hear them say "gay" as a pejoritive (generally meaning "stupid"). A couple times I've said "No, *I'm* gay, that's 'stupid'." Seems to work nicely.

    Sknot doesn't let his friends use "gay" like that.
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    I agree with the previous statements and add a little as well...
    I look up to my mother and grandmother, who both had worked hard to get respect in fields dominated mostly (but not fully) by men as well as working against other adversities. Knowing all the hard work the women in this country have done to achieve respect as humans, business people, intelligent people, mothers, with the ability to care and work hard, it's hard for me to grasp the media's portrayal of women as sex symbols and that alone. This also goes along another communities that have reversed into what they fought against.
    Ok, off my soapbox (for now at least)

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    Nearly my entire childhood and teen years I was called FAT. I hated valentine's day as a child as I got all the UGLY valentines with hippos, elephants etc. I had it pushed in my face if a new person started to befriend me that if they wanted to be able to be friends with the "IN" crowd they wouldn't talk to me.
    I was put on diets from a very EARLY age and while I was chunky in 3rd and 4th grade, being called fat all the time, only made me want to eat more for comfort. I am indeed FAT now, but growing up when Twiggy was today's Kate Moss, THIS was considered FAT at age 16
    and even by today's warped standards THIS is considered PLUS SIZE at a size 16
    I have news for society THIS is FAT and I'm glad I don't look like THAT any more. I'm still FAT, but healthier and working on it.
    I'm waiting to make that dress into a JERSEY and carry the photo with myself when I ride to remind myself where I DON'T want to go again! I also show it to people to show it CAN be done WITHOUT fad diets, pills or surgery...
    Sorry to hijack the thread..
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    Mary

    Fantastic photos Mary! I really like the idea of making the dress into a jersey as a reminder. You are a lovely woman and you have done splendidly. Congratulations on chosing to do so without fad diets, suppliments, and pills. I too lost a lot of fat without the aid of fad diest or pills. I used common sense and exercise. To this day, I still eat the same way. My lifestyle changed and with it my body and mindset changed as well. Through it all I was fortunate enough to have a supportive family who loved me unconditionally at all my sizes.

    I rarely watch US tv shows, as most the women on them seriously need to be fed something nutritious. I do not know when seeing all the bones in a woman's body became "sexy", but I am glad I do not qualify. I am healthy, curvy mom and wife who finally learned to accept her body.

    Again, congratulations!!!!! You are an inspiration!

    --------Thread hijack over-------
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    Thanks bikingmom, I have gone the route of fad diets, pills etc and it always comes back and then some.. I didn't lose any new weight last year before being injured again, but I wasn't getting my cross training exercise of walking a couple miles a day with my grandson as I had before. I'm hoping by the time I get my back healed etc and then have the plantar fasciatis taken care of, the boys have a wagon I can pull them in and we can do the daily walks again.
    Even Richard Simmons says the first three letters in the word DIET are DIE
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    You will get plenty of time to pull your grandchildren as soon as your back is taken care of. I am sorry it is taking so long for you to be attended to, it must be quite frustrating. You truly are an inspiration! Some day I hope to be able to ride as far as you do. Oh, when you do make that jersey, please post a picture of it. I saved nothing from my heavy days. Now I wish I would have saved something.

    What surprises me is how people I *thought* were friends assumed my personality changed when I went from a 98 pound young lady (I know-gross-worst part I thought I was fat ) to a 215 pound mom. Suddenly I was treated differently by those who I thought *knew* me. I am back in size 6s again and have no desire to go any lower. Now I get "it is nice to have the "old" you back". What? *I* never went anywhere. The only thing that changed was my outward apperance. I just shake my head a pray I am teaching my boys to value others for who they are not what they look like.
    Jennifer

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