I've seen pixs of Abq from 40 yrs ago...if someone hadn't told me I was looking at Abq, I would've never known it. It was soo small...and bare! LOL Its now the #5 fastest growing city in the US or something like that. And I can NOT imagine baring my behind in the snow at 12,000. Course - I would much prefer to not even Be in the snow! :-D