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[hellosunshine]

has anyone any other leads with sports nutritionalists?seem to be getting nowhere,infact eating more and still losing weight so well worried.DR tues,told my coach,eerie response of silence,eeeeeek...............blinking stigma of eating disorders,arrgh.IM DETERMINED TO CRACK IT THIS TIME!

[hellosunshine]

Update (boring soz!)changed diet to better quality foods and adopting the gi method.RIGHT!not gaining weight,so is the best way to increase the diet by a set amount ,its a battle mushing up my brains,an athelete trying to kick hell out of an eating disorder.making me a tadge tired and weepy,,damn damn.sososo wana smack this illness for good,i suppose its a bucket of courage,and a bit of biker bloody mindedness.

[Duck on Wheels]

Hi sunshine,
I can so sympathize. Was a time I went into an uncontrolled weightloss spin (due to intenstinal disorder, in my case). I kept looking for weight-gaining diets, but all the well-publicized ones are about losing more, never about putting some back on. I "bottomed out" at 50kg and I'm 5'9", so you can imagine how little muscle I had on me! I ended up getting help from a nutritionist. Turns out I had lost some key nutrients that had to be gained back -- along with getting the disorder under control, of course -- then the weight came back on. In fact, I overshot the mark but was too nervous about over-losing again to do anything about it until recently. Now I am slooooowly inching my way down where I want to be. Slowly seems to be a key here. So my advice:
1) Don't be too stressed out and impatient about this. Work your way gradually back to where you feel you should be, and listen to your body along the way. You want to put on muscle, not just fat, so you'll need to eat just a tad more than you're burning and keep on working out.
2) Talk to a nutritionist, if you can.
3) Take the time to enjoy your food. Make it look good and taste good. Have nice music on, or a good book handy -- whatever makes it more fun. Eating is not a duty, it's a pleasure. You eat because your body wants to eat, not just because it's the sensible thing to do. So take the time to listen to your body thanking you for the good food.
4) You might want more than 3 meals a day. Multiple smaller meals rather than 3 big ones are less likely to leave you feeling stuffed and uncomfortable.
5) Maybe prepare several meals in advance, so you don't get tempted to skip or postpone meals just because of the time and effort of preparing them.
6) Take along energy snacks when exercizing, and remember to eat them. That's in addition to your regular meals. If you're undernourished, you may be "bonking" regularly and taking that to be a normal state of affairs. That could perhaps explain the tiredness and weepiness. Also a burst of extra energy here and there along the race or ride may give you back some of that speed you're missing.

Good luck to you! Recognizing that you're running out of power and that it may be related to the weight loss, that's a good start. And you're also addressing the problem by eating more. Stick with it and you'll get back in shape, maybe better shape than ever!

[spokewench]

Talk to a nutritionist - but you might try some of this too.

My hubby has an incredible metabolism - nothing else wrong with him; if you can call that "wrong".

When he used to train, ride all the time and race, he was "incredibly skinny". Now, he doesn't ride, race, etc. that much and is just "skinny".

What we found helped with him, was he would eat regular meals, many meals, not all low fat. He would eat some things that have a good amount of fat - (you still have to be careful with this for the obvious reasons) but don't try to cut out all fat. Make it good fat, but make sure you get enough. And, of course plenty of carbs, protein and fiber.

Also, add supplements - try the after exercise sports drinks. Drink a whole bottle every time you come back from a work out. (these tend to put weight on or at least with my hubby hold the weight). Now, if he feels like he hasn't gotten enough calories with his meal, he will drink one of those meal replacement drinks i.e ensure to help him hold weight.

[hellosunshine]

NASTY DISEASE!right,10/10 now having a massive calorie intake of the right kinda foods and have risen from 48.2kg - 48.6 and guess what!nasty disease wants me to stop .........yet ive still gotta get up to 50kg to feel stronger again,and nutritionalist reckons 54kg wouls be brill.arrgh.am thinking the anorexia is a football and i need to give it a good boot.hard work.

[RoadRaven]

Hey there Sunshine... sounds like you have a helluva lot of bravery and courage deep inside you that won't quit, and that nasty illness is battlilng, but you and your body and mind are battling back.

Keep believing in yourself an your ability to achieve your goal... you can do this - we know you can... all the women here at TE who have read this thread hold you in their hearts or minds and battle virtually with you.

Keep writing us, every gram you achieve is wonderful and today you write its nearly half a kg!!! WOOHOO!!! And I look forward to hearing that you are feeling stronger and stronger and stronger...

Kia kaha, kia manawanui
(Be strong, be of good heart and believe in yourself)

Arohanui (big/much love)
Raven

[logdiva32]

I agree sounds very thin,but if it works for you. Becareful and do more reaserch before you go smaller, perhaps even so a Dr.

I am bearly 5'4 and 139. I would like to be 135-136. I can't get it, without starving or feeling sluggish. Anytips? I have to keep muscle mass, as a B-ball player need my size. But can't unload my tummy after 3 babies in a row. Help.

[RoadRaven]

But can't unload my tummy after 3 babies in a row. Help.

I had five, my youngest is 11 years old and I am beginning to reclaim my body at last.

After two years of cycling I have dropped 10kg and gone down two dress sizes... however, the "loose" tummy muscles are still there and show no signs of getting firm again. While I still need to lose some weight, I need to consistently build in some tummy crunches to pull my muscles back into line.

When we are pregnant, our tummy muscles relax and the hormones allow the muscle fibres to stretch. Pre-pregnancy they go up and down... and while pregnant they move to allow baby to grow so they curve out towards the side of your body...

After one or two babies they generally "bounce" back into shape... after three or four they need work to teach them where they are supposed to be (particularly if you had babies close together... like me, I had five children in five years... they are currently 18 1/2, 17, just 16, 13, 11 1/2 )

Build tummy crunches into your day, and take it day by day

[logdiva32]

I mean nothing by this towards you, but I pray it doesn't take 11 years to get my nice tummy back. It was no issue after babie 1, who is now 15. I was only 19 and in great college basketball shape, my body bounced back. But now after delivering a bay a few years ago who past after delivery, then delivering my3 and 2 y.o. exactly 12 months apart and now at 34 years old. I can't pull it together, I do about 150 diffrent cruntches per day. I've inquired about tummy tuck but HB says no way.

I want to add this protein shake, but have to figure out where to cut 200 cals per day in order to add the protein shake in.

Bfast is Raisin brand (or some fiber cereal) and fat free milk or something like that
Lunch, small 4" sandwhich lean meat wheat bread, litle mayo. Or lean cuizine frozen meal.
dinner usually grilled chicken or fish with steamed frozen veggies.
No sugar drinks, two granola bars at 10:00 and 5:00 to get through my workouts. I don't know where to cut the cals at???

[logdiva32]

Good luck to you HelloSunshine, keep fighting, we all have our hang ups, food, sex drugs, self esteem.. Just keep fighting, ok...

[LBTC]

My good friend from France eats Nutella every morning. ...because unlike our nutella (which looks identical on the outside) hers does NOT have hydrogenated oils in it!!!

The store brand I buy here in Canada has canola oil and palm oil, but nothing hydrogenated. It's yummy, too, especially spread on whole grain raisin toast with "just peanuts" peanut butter too.

Yummy!

Ah, yes, and the weight v body image debate. At my lightest in the last 20 years (117 lbs at 5 1 1/2") I was not as strong as possibly even now as I try to regain my fitness (135 lbs). My goal for muscle strong weight is 125, because I've been there and understand that I can be strong and fit and fast at that weight. If I manage to dip down to 122 or 120 I won't complain I still feel that I looked my best at 117 lbs, but I'll take how I feel when I'm fit and strong over the look of the lighter weight!!

Lots of positive vibes for healing for you hellosunshine!

Hugs and butterflies,
~T~

[Wahine]

Hey HS, I'm just wondering how you're doing with your weight battle. We're all sending you posative thoughts and vibes. Let us know how you're doing.

[hellosunshine]

positive people=positive actions.


so foremost thankyou!especially as i live alone and i dont get intimate support.slowly ive told a few friends,and thats taken guts as eating disoprders carry a stigma.everyone has been brilliant,the dr agreed,"put on some weight"but unfortunately if it was that easy i wouldnt have been sat in his chair!!!!!i didnt lean forward and nut him though a freidn also directed me to http://www.cyclingnews.com/features....rders1....this reinforced the notion people suffer and people GET BETTER and im doing the right thing,however scarey that is.i magaged to gain 400grammes,so am 48.4kg and now ive got complacient and have my head in the sand re upping dietary intake again,which is SO SO frustrating as i want and need to be stronger,

so your enquiries will help me gather my courage again.


its hard when some people say "you look well/great etc etc"when deep down im shattered,im not as strong as i was,have mood swings and tend to socially isolate myself etc etc,lots of you have been there,which has made contacting you such a good thing as you have GOT BETTER,all positives,which i thrive on.


anyway,ive got an all over body scan this fri for osteoporosis.


how on earth do you eradicate the anorexia saying no,dont increase food intake???ive got to imagine that as a damp squib and im a bit fat foot stamping onit.


have found little help in the GB,i duno why,i suppose also people not realiseing that i need the support a recovering alcoholic would get etc,i did see a nutrition man but he sort of laid out a plan and then released me to get on with it,which i suppose is what will gain me the long term strength to conquer once and for all!


wow!was that a long winded one?????

[Wahine]

I'm glad you're still plugging away at it HS. I have severaly friends that have struggled with anorexia and it is very hard to control. As you said, it's like alcoholism, a disease that you live with forever and have to fight everyday and every minute. Hang in there.

[RoadRaven]

I mean nothing by this towards you, but I pray it doesn't take 11 years to get my nice tummy back. It was no issue after babie 1, who is now 15. I was only 19 and in great college basketball shape, my body bounced back. But now after delivering a bay a few years ago who past after delivery, then delivering my3 and 2 y.o. exactly 12 months apart and now at 34 years old. I can't pull it together, I do about 150 diffrent cruntches per day. I've inquired about tummy tuck but HB says no way.

No offence taken at all... I got my tummy back after each of the first three babies, and in fact was lighter after baby three than i had been before I first got pregnant.

But with baby 4 (10lb11oz) I was busy with two preschoolers and one just at school, then unexpectadly pregnant again and when he was born I enrolled at university and began study for a teaching qualification when he was 6 months old. Working part-time in my third year of study and then straight into full-time work after graduation, I have just had no "me-time".

So now I have "me-time" as children have gotten older, and my study is now only one or two papers a year. So its time to "find" my tum again.

Def no to a tummy tuck - good choice hubby to say 'no way' - time and committment will regain that flatness again, its just a matter of making it happen.