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    I thought Lisa posted that her ramboulleit weighed 27 lbs hence my concern. As you know I am a fan of light steel, but by light I mean bikes in the under 22 lb range. I although think bikes with a sloping top tube are better aesthetically for those of us that prefer our bars high, although my bikes have straight ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triskeliongirl View Post
    I thought Lisa posted that her ramboulleit weighed 27 lbs hence my concern.
    Hmm, maybe it was the Legolas? Someone has a Riv that weighs the same as my Waterford... it's gonna bug me now until I find it....

    I was looking at a Bleriot at Robinson Wheel Works in San Leandro CA, and thought it was a pretty spiffy frame. Mimi, you really might wanna check this one out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KnottedYet View Post
    Hmm, maybe it was the Legolas? Someone has a Riv that weighs the same as my Waterford... it's gonna bug me now until I find it....


    I was looking at a Bleriot at Robinson Wheel Works in San Leandro CA, and thought it was a pretty spiffy frame. Mimi, you really might wanna check this one out!
    You are thinking of Veronica's Legolos. I agree the Bleriot is a very spiffy frame in a very women friendly geometry (I just love the slack seat tube angles) but it would bug me to not be able to use tires narrower than 30mm. That is very wide for the minimum size.

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    I guess I'm missing something here. Why the minimum tire size? Is that determined by the rims you put on the frame or by the frame itself?
    Last edited by KnottedYet; 12-29-2006 at 04:41 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KnottedYet View Post
    I guess I'm missing something here. Why the minimum tire size? Is that determined by the rims you put on the frame or by the frame itself?
    If you go to the link above, there is a 15 page pdf file you can download about the bike. For some reason Grant designed it to use a very non-standard wheel size, 650B. He says that tires for 650B rims only start at 30mm and then go considerably wider. I think he chose them over 650C since while 650C tires are available in racing widths, the widest they go is 28mm. THat's the catch.

    HEre is the relevant section of the pdf:

    What’s the Bleriot frame/bike?
    It’s a multi-purpose bike built for 650B wheels. The rest of this brochure
    goes into more detail.
    What’s a 650B wheel?
    It’s bigger in diameter than a mountain bike 26-inch wheel, and smaller than
    a typical road 700c wheel. Rims are sized by something called “bead seat diameter” (bsd)—the diameter at the point where the tire bead nestles to the rim. Every tire made has its bsd molded into it, because bsd is the universal language of rim & tire compatibility. Here’s a chart.

    rim size bsd
    700c 622mm
    650B 584mm
    26-inch (mtn) 559mm

    Why 650B?
    A 650B wheel is smaller than a 700c wheel, so it allows more tire and fender
    clearance, which is especially helpful on small-to-medium sizes.

    650B history:
    Bikes with 650B wheels go back 60 years, and still have a strong following in
    France, with a growing, fan base here in the United States. It’s a smart size that one could argue should have been the mountain bike size, but in the frenzy to get a bike out there, it was easier to use the current mountain bike size (559mm bsd 26-inch), and once that caught on there was no going back.

    Tires:The 650B tire that people think of when they think of 650B tires if
    they think of 650B tires at all, is one that’s about 36 to 38mm wide and runs
    on 30 to 50 psi. You can get 650B tires as narrow as 30mm and as wide as
    41.5mm. Start off with a 33 to 38mm tire, and see how you like those (you will like those).


    p.s. The 650C tire found on many wsd racing bikes have a bsd of 571 and are not interchangeable w 650B. I do not believe this frame will support a 650C rim but I am not sure of that. One reason I went with the terry bikes with the 700c/24" combo is that 24" (520 bsd) high pressure tires are available in sizes ranging from 23c racing to 32c touring, the range I was interested in using.
    Last edited by Triskeliongirl; 12-29-2006 at 05:26 PM.

 

 

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