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    I have a Kona Dew for my hybrid commuter, and I'm pretty darn happy with it. It's aluminum (ouch!) so I don't have to worry about it rusting here in the Seattle rain.

    An added benefit is that it has a slanting top tube, so shorter folks (like my kid or short visitors) can lower the seat waaaaay down and go for a ride with me.

    The geometry of the Dew is good for me. Kind of a cyclocross geometry. I found the Trek hybrid geometry to be awkward, but I loved my Trek 570 "Fast Track".

    I would definitely try a couple different brands in your price range. They will feel different, and when you find a geometry that suits your riding style and body mechanics it will feel really amazing, like "HEY! THIS IS MY BIKE!!!"
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    KnottedYet "I would definitely try a couple different brands in your price range. They will feel different, and when you find a geometry that suits your riding style and body mechanics it will feel really amazing, like "HEY! THIS IS MY BIKE!!!""

    yes, it's kinda like dating in that way

    Also there is no particular "season" on bikes, the deals are on service and sometimes equipment. Often when buying bikes shops will give you $___ amount off on stuff and service.

    But I always say you are shopping for two things:

    the frame, because you are stuck with that. When trying bikes if you get a chance to try the next model up...go for it. That will give you an idea of what you could do later on with upgrades such as better wheels etc. (good threads here somewhere about upgrading entry level bikes)

    the shop, I loooove my shop and my mechanics. Good service will save you time and money. So if one shop just "feels" better...go there.
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    Thanks for the replies everyone !

    Quote Originally Posted by pll View Post
    Also, you should also try bikes on a longer ride (20-30 minutes)...
    pll, do they rent them out at the bike shop ? I doubt they would let me use it on loan, right ?

    I'm sorry about your PF. Has it resolved ?

    Quote Originally Posted by CyclChyk View Post
    Above all else make sure your LBS fits you to the bike you end up buying. Read up on bike fitting on the web so you know you are getting the proper treatment. My first fit was no where near as in depth as my second fit and I could definately tell the difference. (My first bike was a Giant; it was a little oversized for me). And in the event you have any discomfort or pain from the fit, or even if anything feels a little "off", go back to your LBS for a consult or adjustment. These little details will make a huge difference in your sticking with cycling.....

    Then of course, there will be the dreaded SADDLE issue........
    I've been reading, but I'm still relatively clueless ! As far as the saddle issue, you mean to tell me that my natural padding will not help here either ?!

    Quote Originally Posted by suzieqtwa View Post
    I too am an injured runner. I destroyed my ankle this year training for the Marathon. Someone stole my bike about a month ago ,and I started riding my husbands TREK 7.2 FX. I didn't realize how much better it was than mine...very smooth gear changes ,and just a real nice bike. Its a bit big for me ,but my new TREK 2.1 WSD is in lay away now . Anyway ,in answer to your question ,I'm quite pleased with the 7.2. I think its perfect for trails ,and roads.
    I'm so sorry Suzie ! will you be able to run again (or do you have any desire to) ? I am 5'2". When I tried the 7.2 FX it seemed fine, but I don't know what to compare it to so any bike feels fine for a ride around the parking lot.

    Quote Originally Posted by KSH View Post
    Well, I am not sure about hybrids... but I always WISH someone had told me about the quality of the gearing on the bike I was buying.
    If you can get Shimano 105's... try to. Gears that shift easily will make your life easier and your bike more enjoyable to ride.

    Good luck and welcome to the world of cycling!
    Thanks for the tip and the welcome !

    Quote Originally Posted by KnottedYet View Post
    I have a Kona Dew for my hybrid commuter, and I'm pretty darn happy with it. It's aluminum (ouch!) so I don't have to worry about it rusting here in the Seattle rain.

    I would definitely try a couple different brands in your price range. They will feel different, and when you find a geometry that suits your riding style and body mechanics it will feel really amazing, like "HEY! THIS IS MY BIKE!!!"
    I'll keep that in mind. I'm in Florida so rain and humidity are a constant here too. I'll have to see if any of the LBS carry it.

    The geometry/bdoy mechanics makes total sense when I equate it to the right running shoe. Definitely something to keep in mind.


    Quote Originally Posted by Trek420 View Post
    But I always say you are shopping for two things:

    the frame, because you are stuck with that. When trying bikes if you get a chance to try the next model up...go for it. That will give you an idea of what you could do later on with upgrades such as better wheels etc. (good threads here somewhere about upgrading entry level bikes)

    the shop, I loooove my shop and my mechanics. Good service will save you time and money. So if one shop just "feels" better...go there.

    Thanks. I do have a preference for bike shops already believe it or not and I happen to like the one closer to my house (smaller shop) better than the big bicycle shop in town. Maybe it was because one of the owners is a female and she was very helpful when I went in.

    What are the essentials that I must look for in a bike frame ? material it's made from, weight ... ?

    Thanks again everyone. I appreciate yout help !

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    Quote Originally Posted by seychelle View Post
    pll, do they rent them out at the bike shop ? I doubt they would let me use it on loan, right ?

    I'm sorry about your PF. Has it resolved ?
    Hi seychelle,

    The PF did resolve after about 18 months... this was in 2002, 2003.
    Long test rides: The bike shops I have visited allow you to do this for free leaving your ID at their counter. I suppose some may want to put a hold on a credit card, but I have never encountered this. Once they have your ID, they can point you to a suitable route where you can ride and test how the bike feels and handles: turns, accelerating, stopping, bumps, standing, etc. Some stuff becomes obvious only in longer rides.

    Saddles: There could be books about this issue and the issue of bike shorts. The best saddle is the one that makes you comfortable (many people hate the saddles I use, but they work for me). The stock saddles that come with most bikes are not too comfortable, some are men specific designs. So, once you find a bike you like, have a women specific saddle put on and test ride it again. Keep in mind that if you are not used to riding, the first few significant rides (1 hour or more) you are going to be feel sore.

    Materials: I don't believe you will get a great range of choices in the $500 neighborhood, either aluminum or steel. If you move up market, then you start seeing some carbon. For example, the Specialized Sirrus Sport has carbon in the seat stays and the fork, with their "zerts" inserts which are supposed to dampen vibration even further. Anyway, I have an aluminum road bike that was $550 and the vibration from the road kills my hands on long rides (more than 5 hours, as when I did a 100 mile ride). Steel vibrates less (aluminum would be stiffer), but can rust. Carbon can shatter when hit, titanium is very expensive.

    I would stay away from suspension forks -- they add weight and they noticeably slow you down on the road... but your can test ride this hypothesis!

    Isn't it fun to shop for a bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pll View Post
    Isn't it fun to shop for a bike?

    No, that's way more technical than I want to get ! You want to do it for me ? do they have personal bike shoppers ? maybe I can hire one

    I prefer the much simpler, buy a pair of running shoes and head out the door sport, but I have no choice. I went to the orthopedic surgeon yesterday and while he said I do not need surgery, I'm off of running for 6 months. So ... I guess I'll have to suck it up and get technical as sitting around like a lump is not my style Thanks for your info. It's very helpful.

    I know I can read on line, but I do better with a book in front of me. Is there a good, basic beginner's book I can get that talks about what essentials to look for in a starter bike, how to train, etc ?

    Are you able to run again ? 18 months is a loooong time !
    Last edited by seychelle; 11-22-2006 at 06:49 AM.

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    happy shopping!

    seychelle "What are the essentials that I must look for in a bike frame ? material it's made from, weight ... ?"

    fit, fit, fit....and did I mention....fit? Oh, and it also has to fit you

    In your price range don't worry about weight. Remember only about 1/5th of the weight of the bike is the frame anyway.

    Buy the bike that fits you best.

    Over time you might upgrade it (lighter wheels is the most effective money you can throw away at a bike). Many here find your first bike ends up being the winter trainer/commute'mobile and you might buy a lighter bike for longer rides.

    All things being equal if choosing between a couple bikes and they both fit and are about the same price...look for the best groupo, that's quality components like Sram or Shimano for example.

    Over the years and many happy safe miles you'll be replacing the power train (deralieurs, brakes, crankset, chan) anyway. At that time you may go for the next model or two up and voila! Lighter bike.

    You're "stuck" with the frame, it must fit you. The most expensive bike you could buy is the $___.__ bike that sits in the garage because it hurts to ride.
    Fancy Schmancy Custom Road bike ~ Mondonico Futura Legero
    Found on side of the road bike ~ Motobecane Mixte
    Gravel bike ~ Salsa Vaya
    Favorite bike ~ Soma Buena Vista mixte
    Folder ~ Brompton
    N+1 ~ My seat on the Rover recumbent tandem
    https://www.instagram.com/pugsley_adventuredog/

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    Have a great time shopping and listen to Trek, she gave great advice.
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