I have given up on knee warmers. I bought a pair of Terry regular leg warmers that actually fit, without the 8 extra inches (well maybe a couple). I have a pair of tights by Hind that also fit perfectly. They are not padded, so i can wear them for other activities. The ones I got first, from Nashbar are huge on me. I also have a pair of Ibex wool tights for x country skiing. They also fit well and I wear them mtbiking and for the winter road rides I do once in awhile.