i have an under the seat bag.. it's full! it has my tool thingy, a spare tube, tire spoon thingys, a patch kit, a CO2 pump and 2 cartridges, a rag, a house key and $5.00 in it. i can't fit anything else.. no.. i don't want to buy a bigger bag! i bought this one cuz it matches my bike (specialized brand and blue!)

which is why i would like a small bag for the handlebars.. just big enough for a jacket or leg/arm warmers/tights. and i only need to have it one if i think i need it! or.. if it's small enough.. who know's.. i may just leave it on all the time!

so far i still like the topeak.. and the detours one looks nice too!

both sound small enough for what i want! i don't necesarilly need the map holder.. cuz i don't do that many organized rides.. it was just an idea with the r.e.i. one.. which i've decided not to get!