Tuckervill, I agree whole heartedly. I surly didn't mean that to be snotty if it came across that way. I was just wanting to let you know that I went there and read it. I have no problem looking into different ways to take care of issues with children. Ecspecially as they get older. Spankings are not something I do without consideration of other alternatives. It was rare that mine actually got one, and now that he is older, I look for other ways to punish. Taking privledges away works pretty well now. He loves his game box. LOL