Brevet??

oxysback · 08-15-2006, 07:51 PM

So I'm on bikejournal.com and for ride categories it lists brevet. I looked it up and the only definition listed was for military ranks.

Anyone willing to shed some light?

tulip · 08-15-2006, 08:17 PM

Brevets are long-distance cycling events. They are a type of Randonnee. You can find more information at www.rusa.com (randonneurs of USA, I think).

I'm just getting into the randonneur mindset...amazing bikes, amazing folks it seems so far.

oxysback · 08-15-2006, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tulip

Brevets are long-distance cycling events. They are a type of Randonnee. You can find more information at www.rusa.com (randonneurs of USA, I think).

I'm just getting into the randonneur mindset...amazing bikes, amazing folks it seems so far.

That's what DH thought it was...but he wasn't sure either. Thanks for the info!

So by 'long-distance' you mean longer than a century?

tulip · 08-15-2006, 08:23 PM

The shortest are usually 200km, which is 124 miles. The Big Daddy is the Paris-Brest-Paris, which is really, really far, like 1200k I think (or is it double that?) As I said, I'm just getting to know the sport, and I have not tried any yet, although I did do a 70-mile ride on Saturday with people who actually DO these things.

I don't know why they are called Brevets, since to me, being a French speaker, that connotes "short". Maybe Brevets are short Randonnees. I'll find out.

I really like the bikes, and since it's not a race (although there are typically time limits), people are nice and helpful. Sleep can be an issue, and you have to really pay attention to eating.

Some day I'll do one, at least a 200km. I can handle that, now, maybe. I find it fascinating.

oxysback · 08-15-2006, 08:33 PM

I love it when I learn something new! Thanks to Wikipedia I found out that Randoneurs are not limited to cyclists. There are also skiing and hiking ones.

So I guess the main difference is that there's a time limit between 'stations' and you have to have a card stamped when you get to each one.

Here's a link for anyone else that's interested....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brevet_%28cycling%29

KnottedYet · 08-15-2006, 09:00 PM

www.rusa.org works better.

Fredwina · 08-16-2006, 06:23 AM

Paris-Brest-Paris (PBP) is 1200K, or 768 miles. You have to do it in 90 hours clock time (eating,sleeping, going to the Toilet count against you). It's held every 4 years with August, 2007 being the next time. There are a couple of other 1200K that are run , like Boston-Montreal-Boston, London Edinburgh London, and others.

Nanci · 08-16-2006, 06:25 AM

brevet (bruh vay) - Literally, the word means "certificate", "patent", or "diploma" in French. In "randonneuring", it means two things: certification of having successfully done a randonné, --indicated by a small numbered sticker placed on a completed brevet card --, as well as, by extension the long-distance event itself (at least 200 kilometers in length). Completing a successful brevet means one's ride has been certified and registered in France, and the rider's name is added to the roll of honor, going all the way back to 1921. These challenging rides can also entitle the rider to enter longer events such as Paris-Brest-Paris or Boston-Montréal-Boston. As used in the "randonneuring" world, the terms brevet and randonnée are often interchangeable, but in common cycling usage, a randonnée might be considered to be less structured or formal than a brevet.

DebW · 08-16-2006, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Nanci

brevet (bruh vay) - Literally, the word means "certificate", "patent", or "diploma" in French.

Patent as in "brev. Campagnolo", right? Actually, my shifters and skewers say "Patent Campagnolo" so guess they were made for the US or British market, but my 1970 derailleurs say "brev. Campagnolo". I think I've seen "brev." far more than "patent" on Campy parts. What's the Italian word for patent?

DebW · 08-16-2006, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DebW

Patent as in "brev. Campagnolo", right? Actually, my shifters and skewers say "Patent Campagnolo" so guess they were made for the US or British market, but my 1970 derailleurs say "brev. Campagnolo". I think I've seen "brev." far more than "patent" on Campy parts. What's the Italian word for patent?

Italian for "patent" (thank you Google search) is "brevetto". So "brev. Campagnolo" is probably Italian, but conveniently French as well.

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oxysback Pugs, not drugs! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newberg, OR Posts: 646	Brevet?? So I'm on bikejournal.com and for ride categories it lists brevet. I looked it up and the only definition listed was for military ranks. Anyone willing to shed some light? __________________ If you don't like the way I do things, please signify by saying "I volunteer". Ellen

08-15-2006, 08:33 PM	#5
oxysback Pugs, not drugs! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newberg, OR Posts: 646	I love it when I learn something new! Thanks to Wikipedia I found out that Randoneurs are not limited to cyclists. There are also skiing and hiking ones. So I guess the main difference is that there's a time limit between 'stations' and you have to have a card stamped when you get to each one. Here's a link for anyone else that's interested.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brevet_%28cycling%29 __________________ If you don't like the way I do things, please signify by saying "I volunteer". Ellen

08-15-2006, 09:00 PM	#6
KnottedYet Me on my Downtube folder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mrs. Trek420 Posts: 8,777	www.rusa.org works better. __________________ "The thug is aware that loudness convinces sixty persons where reasoning convinces but one." Mark Twain

08-16-2006, 06:23 AM	#7
Fredwina Enjoying the Ride Join Date: May 2006 Location: riding my bicycle down route 66 in CA Posts: 1,622	Paris-Brest-Paris (PBP) is 1200K, or 768 miles. You have to do it in 90 hours clock time (eating,sleeping, going to the Toilet count against you). It's held every 4 years with August, 2007 being the next time. There are a couple of other 1200K that are run , like Boston-Montreal-Boston, London Edinburgh London, and others. __________________ Read my blog. or else !

08-16-2006, 06:25 AM	#8
Nanci Team Paloma Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: North Central Florida Posts: 3,373	Definition of Brevet brevet (bruh vay) - Literally, the word means "certificate", "patent", or "diploma" in French. In "randonneuring", it means two things: certification of having successfully done a randonné, --indicated by a small numbered sticker placed on a completed brevet card --, as well as, by extension the long-distance event itself (at least 200 kilometers in length). Completing a successful brevet means one's ride has been certified and registered in France, and the rider's name is added to the roll of honor, going all the way back to 1921. These challenging rides can also entitle the rider to enter longer events such as Paris-Brest-Paris or Boston-Montréal-Boston. As used in the "randonneuring" world, the terms brevet and randonnée are often interchangeable, but in common cycling usage, a randonnée might be considered to be less structured or formal than a brevet. __________________ *********** "...I'm like the cycling version of the guy in Flowers for Algernon." Mike Magnuson

08-15-2006, 08:17 PM	#2
tulip Ain't Love a Surprise? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Between the Blue Ridge and the Chesapeake Bay Posts: 3,306	Brevets are long-distance cycling events. They are a type of Randonnee. You can find more information at www.rusa.com (randonneurs of USA, I think). I'm just getting into the randonneur mindset...amazing bikes, amazing folks it seems so far.

08-15-2006, 08:23 PM	#4
tulip Ain't Love a Surprise? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Between the Blue Ridge and the Chesapeake Bay Posts: 3,306	The shortest are usually 200km, which is 124 miles. The Big Daddy is the Paris-Brest-Paris, which is really, really far, like 1200k I think (or is it double that?) As I said, I'm just getting to know the sport, and I have not tried any yet, although I did do a 70-mile ride on Saturday with people who actually DO these things. I don't know why they are called Brevets, since to me, being a French speaker, that connotes "short". Maybe Brevets are short Randonnees. I'll find out. I really like the bikes, and since it's not a race (although there are typically time limits), people are nice and helpful. Sleep can be an issue, and you have to really pay attention to eating. Some day I'll do one, at least a 200km. I can handle that, now, maybe. I find it fascinating.

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