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**maillotpois** · 08-10-2006, 08:27 AM

Well, actually DH happened upon this frame at Gary Hobbs' store (where I got all my bikes, gvhbikes.com - Gary died of leukemia last year and Tom's running the shop now. Amazing how many TNT rides I coached on Gary's bikes and then he goes and dies of the stuff.) I can't get a picture in here that is not HUGE. It's a Jeff Lyon rogue frame, bright blue.

"This is a handmade, fillet brazed frameset with sport/touring geometry, fender braze-ons, and clearance for larger tires."

I am hesitant to do steel here, at the coast, given my clumsiness, etc. But I really can't get a brevet bike with the right geometry in a different frame material that I can afford/justify. The frame's not too heavy - under 4 lbs and the fork is light. So we could probably bring it in around 24 - 25 pounds. The Schmidt hub will add some weight. But it's just the best set up for lights I have seen for long distance riding. The Moab on the helmet was fine for the 600k, but I could see it getting to be dicey at longer distances.

So we're looking at maybe getting Tom to build it up for us. I would put a schmidt hub on it. It's so weird to be looking at buying a bike when I can't even ride for 5 more months. Surreal.

On the brevets -

Everyone tells me the Davis brevet series is the one to do. I would like to throw in an extra 600k, maybe SF's. PBP is out because we will probably do a family trip to France next year and I couldn't go back 3 - 4 weeks later. I heard some amazing stuff this weekend about PBP, and will definitely do it one day. Probably in 2011.

**snapdragen** · 08-10-2006, 08:54 AM

2011 - there's your goal date Veronica......

**Lise** · 08-10-2006, 08:58 AM

5 months seems like an eternity, but it will pass, soon, MP.

So, tell me, what qualities does a bike need to be a "brevet bike"?

**SadieKate** · 08-10-2006, 09:57 AM

I'm trying to talk MP into a Mercian. She started it by sending me this link.

Now I want it in Flamboyant Red.

http://www.merciancycles.com/frame_velocita.asp

**maillotpois** · 08-10-2006, 10:00 AM

You are flamboyant.

I'm thinking a little more cost-conscious:

http://www.merciancycles.com/frame_i...x_complete.jpg

Super nice. Probably available in flamboyant red. But would that clash with my red bar bag? Hmm...

So it's probably a good thing I am not in a hurry to get a bike. Have some time to shop around.....

**Veronica** · 08-10-2006, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by Lise

So, tell me, what qualities does a bike need to be a "brevet bike"?

Well... it needs to be comfortable. So more of a touring geometry, rather than a race geometry.

Some examples...

The Madonne has more of a racing geometry

The Pilot is more upright, so more of a touring geometry.

You should be able to put fenders on it and maybe even racks. A lot of brevet riders have generator hubs too.

There's probably other stuff that I don't know about.
V.

**maillotpois** · 08-10-2006, 10:22 AM

But you don't really "need" a special bike to do brevets. I did the 600 on the race geometry bike, and I don't know that Nanci's Lava is a "brevet" or touring bike - it looked fairly standard but I don't remember thinking about geometry last time I looked at a picture of her bike. (Lava Napping, I believe was the picture!)

I just noticed after a couple hundred miles, I start spending all my time with my hands on the tops of the bars. So I believe that a brevet bike would be better. A bit more upright, maybe cushier.

My bikes have no clearance for fenders, which would be nice to have. At a bit under 20 pounds each, both my bikes are a heck of a lot lighter than a brevet bike, but I am hoping to ultimately keep the weight down on the bike as much as possible. The Schmidt hub will add weight and some drag, but I think it will be worth it in the long run.

**SadieKate** · 08-10-2006, 10:34 AM

MP, you think the Davis ultra group will have their act back together next year?

**maillotpois** · 08-10-2006, 10:49 AM

Conflicting stores on that one from the folks I talked to at Tam Double. I hope so - heck, it's a PBP year - the brevets will be wildly popular. Doing SF or Santa Rosa would be okay. Davis is supposed to actually have some support.

**Nanci** · 08-10-2006, 11:33 AM

Lava's a plain old Trek 2100 WSD. I doubt she'd accomodate fenders. But her big trunk/rack protects my back! I like her...She's got carbon fork, seat stays, seatpost, FWIW. She doesn't want to go to Paris, though, so I'm not going to force her.

**maillotpois** · 08-10-2006, 11:36 AM

Lava rocks! She's basically the same set up as my bike. And I don't blame her for not wanting to go to Paris. Making her ride in the cargo hold - inhumane!

**Trekhawk** · 08-10-2006, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by Veronica

A lot of brevet riders have generator hubs too.
There's probably other stuff that I don't know about.
V.

Ok showing my ignorance here. What is a generator hub??

**mimitabby** · 08-10-2006, 11:44 AM

It's a gizmo you get put on your hub that generates electricity (for a headlight, for example) by the energy made by your pedalling and on downhills and stuff.

**SadieKate** · 08-10-2006, 11:51 AM

A hub that generates power for lights.

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt.asp

**Trekhawk** · 08-10-2006, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by mimitabby

It's a gizmo you get put on your hub that generates electricity (for a headlight, for example) by the energy made by your pedalling and on downhills and stuff.

Thanks Mimitabby - see learn something new everyday.

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