Quote Originally Posted by Cataboo View Post
The pacer? in the 42 cms, the top tube is 491 mms with an effective top tube of 506 mm. The LHT is 492 mms with an effective top tube of 505 mm in the 42 cm size. I was running a 130 mm stem on the 42 cm pacer trying to make it long enough to be rideable for me. The reach shouldn't be different on the LHT vs. the pacer, unless the stem/handlebars are different. Okay, it is 1 mm different on effective top tube.

Are you sure you rode the 42 cm pacer & not the 46?
Odd. The shop said it was the smallest frame on both but maybe the stem/bars were set up differently. I actually had rejected the Pacer because it did not fit right. Now I have to add it back to the list. Thanks. (sorry for the diversion Jordan).