Quote Originally Posted by papaver View Post
In cities like Brussels there are A LOT of muslims. In large parts of the city every westener has moved. Sometimes I have to go in these parts of the town and each and every time I'm harassed by the men. Why? Because I don't wear a veil. Sometimes they stand around you with 6 to 12 men at the same time, and I can tell you, it is NOT a nice feeling. They say I don't respect their religion. I'm sorry, but where is their respect for me?????

Now they want to announce their moments of prayer via megaphones. We really don't want that. It's like we're living in a muslim country and we're not.

In countries like Belgium, France, Holland there's a whole veil debate. Are they allowed to wear one at school? Or at work? It's a huge statement, you know. It's not like you're wearing a discrete cross or whatever.

I know quite a few Turkish and Moroccan girls and they are all forced to wear a veil. The men have become a lot more fanatic the last ten years or so. I've been to muslim countries and there the people are much more tolerant to Europeans and to women in general.

Last month a Moroccan girl was killed by her parents and their imman, her crime: she had a girlfriend. They tortured her with boiling water. There are quite a few 'murders for honour' here where brothers or fathers kill their sister because she doesn't want to marry the man of their choice or because she has a relationship with another boy.

There is absolutely NO integration whatsoever with the local population. They don't want to. They only go to their shops, pay with their native currency, you don't see them on TV. They just live on their island and it's getting bigger and bigger and bigger...

So yes I can understand the Swiss population. I wish I didn't though.
Okay, this is getting further to the point of my distress over the minarets. Minarets are just a SYMBOL of this kind of behavior, I'm to presume?

But, aren't these behaviors prosecutable under current law? Is it legal in Belgium for a large group of men to harass a woman on the street? (How frightening that must have been!) Is it legal to disturb the peace with loud announcements? (We have church bells here and no one seems to mind them--and they don't even call anyone to anything. They're just for fun!)

Why don't the citizens of Brussels call the police on this behavior, and control it with existing laws? Is it too far gone? Do the police ignore the complaints? What?

Karen