paging Brooks 'people', B17...

[Miranda]

I tend to have a 40 degree torso angle on my bike with moustache bars, no problem on the girly-bits on the Brooks B67 on that bike.

My bike with drop bars, I spend half my time in the drops, no problem on that Brooks B67, either. (bars at same height as saddle) Dunno what my torso angle is on that one, certainly less than 40 degrees.

But then, I can also sit on a wooden chair in my undies with my elbows on my knees and not feel any girly-bit squooshing (the test for needing a cut-out). (or, if your saddle isn't wide enough or has too much padding, it's the comparison test for you needing a different saddle!)

If you know you need a cut-out, you might want to wait for the B-17 Imperial. (Brooks with cut-out, and no grumpy company owner like with An-Atomica) If you have wide sits and need a cut-out, hang tight for the B-68 Imperial. Check with Bill at Wallingford for release dates. www.wallbike.com

Knott... Thank you for that about other companies (speaking of SA). His saddle may be wonderful, but I had issues before I ever rode it due the order arriving with a defect. I didn't use my order. It ended up being a return. My experience was negative (long story I wrote, and now think I'd better take it off). I think it's time to hire a marketing rep that deals well with the public would be my consumer tip.

On the note about the Brooks Imperial...
I started reading the threads on BikeForums last night after getting my post response info here. The Brooks lady is on there with many people test riding it. I'm not done reading yet, but it was interesting. Andrea (Brooks rep) wrote it might be out to masses by year end where I left off. I will ask Bill at Wallbike this question too. I'll play on my wooden chairs and see what I think about the cut out. I have never used that test before. I appreciate your feedback!