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  1. #1
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    yesterday's lesson about speed

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    On my training ride yesterday, I learned a couple of invaluable lessons that seem particularly apropos given the "average MPH" thread going on.

    Lesson #1: There will always be somebody faster than you.
    I was cranking along at just over 18 mph, which is atypically fast for me, and feeling really good about myself. When a flicker in the corner of my eye caused me to look, and see the wiry, 50-something year old gent totally blow by me. I picked up my pace a bit to see if I could catch him, but even at almost 20 mph he was leaving me far, far behind. Rather than feel badly about getting smoked, I instead tried to think about it as "hey, I maintained an almost 20 mph pace for over a mile!"

    Lesson #2: The road giveth, and the road taketh away.
    I was shooting for 75-80 miles, and I was astounded to discover that I'd managed to cover 41.5 miles in the first 2.5 hours. I had several 15 minute laps where I was averaging 17 mph or higher (significantly faster than my typical pace of 15-16 mph). I kept thinking to myself "this is too easy..." I discovered why it was too easy once I doubled back to make the return trip, and was slammed by a 19 mph gust of wind that nearly threw me from my bike. The entire way home was a giant slog--it felt like fighting through wet sand. I had to work for every mile. Once I got home, I consoled myself with the fact that even after 2.5 hours of fighting the wind, I'd still managed to maintain my standard 15 mph pace over a longer ride than I'd ever done before.

    I would say that actually more than the wind, my new saddle was a bigger impediment to my speed and distance goals. I'm testing out the Fizik Aliante, and now that I've put 150 miles on it, I think it's not for me...
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    good story!
    it pays to be very aware of the wind. It changes speed and direction too. Lots of people have experienced headwinds in both directions. nasty stuff!
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    So true! Good job on your ride yesterday!!

    I hate when you're cruising along and feeling good (not really feeling like you have a tailwind) then you turn around and BAM! headwind!

    I ride mostly at the lake by my house. It's a 10 mile loop, and even tho I swear the wind blows 10mph more there than where they measure the wind,at least I'm always alternating between headwind and tailwind the whole ride. Unless there's a wind-shift and you get headwind the whole way around.
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    Amen to the wind! I've had a "headwind" on many rides both going out and coming back. But a tailwind . . . sweet heaven!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_angel View Post
    Lesson #1: There will always be somebody faster than you.
    I was cranking along at just over 18 mph, which is atypically fast for me, and feeling really good about myself. When a flicker in the corner of my eye caused me to look, and see the wiry, 50-something year old gent totally blow by me. I picked up my pace a bit to see if I could catch him, but even at almost 20 mph he was leaving me far, far behind. Rather than feel badly about getting smoked, I instead tried to think about it as "hey, I maintained an almost 20 mph pace for over a mile!"
    Haha! I rode the track for the first time on Sunday. It was pursuit style, just for fun, and road bikes were allowed. I was passed by a woman who was probably old enough to be my mom! Regardless, I was quite pleased with my average speeds which were fast for me, especially given that I'd never ridden a track before (although, neither had she, but she is a racer and I'm not).
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    hmmm... was looking for inspiration as I turned around on the local trail tonight when two guys went by. Figured I'd see if I could keep up. 17... 18... 19... 20... 21... holding 21 and they were STILL pulling away! I tried to keep them in sight but eventually I lost them. Oh well. I wasn't able to keep going over 20mph for very long but I think I am getting stronger and faster. I did manage to push up a hill at 23mph. That made me happy. But, it was definitely a night of "someone will always be faster."
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    since I have been trying for several years to get my pushing average anywhere above an average of 16.5, any time I am going faster than that and it feels like maybe the training is starting to pay off, I KNOW I will pay the price as soon as I turn around or change direction in any manner.

    It's enough to make one a cynical pessimist.
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    I'm 47 and I want to grow up to be like those older riders who smoked you! lol.

    Hey, really though, good for you for your accomplishments. And yes, there will always be someone who is more "X" than you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rubysoho View Post
    hmmm... was looking for inspiration as I turned around on the local trail tonight when two guys went by. Figured I'd see if I could keep up. 17... 18... 19... 20... 21... holding 21 and they were STILL pulling away! I tried to keep them in sight but eventually I lost them. Oh well. I wasn't able to keep going over 20mph for very long but I think I am getting stronger and faster. I did manage to push up a hill at 23mph. That made me happy. But, it was definitely a night of "someone will always be faster."
    Damn...I'm impressed!!! I'm lucky if I can maintain 10mph up a hill (and I live in IL where we have NO real hills)...and this is my 3rd year of serious riding.
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    I rode with my sis and brother-in-law today. My sister was in front telling stories, i was next and BIL was trailing behind looking for deer, calling to birds and checking out the flooding. For some reason, today in particular several men (walkers and bikers) pointed out "the girls are getting ahead!"
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    This was a rite of passage when I lived in Virginia... you start thinking you're getting stronger and wow! You really are today! and WHAM!!!! (And, of course, you rode *hard* with the wind behind you).

    Out here on the prairie, our routes are determined by the winds -- so you're reminded to think about it at the beginning of any given group ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nscrbug View Post
    Damn...I'm impressed!!! I'm lucky if I can maintain 10mph up a hill (and I live in IL where we have NO real hills)...and this is my 3rd year of serious riding.
    (it wasn't a huge hill )
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    I have been experiencing the wind switch lately too. Was up to 16.8 for quite a stretch the other day. It was amazing and I was having fun until my riding partner, Freedomrider pointed out that I should enjoy it going this way, because on the way back, we gotta pay! I think I bottomed out @ 6mph on the return trip. Hmmm....and still remained upright!

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    Training rides to be afraid of:

    on your way out, you find that you are much stronger than usual because your speed is several MPH faster than normal. You feel good so you decide to head out bit further than normal.

    then you reach the turnaround point. Turn around and WHAM the headwind hits you HARD!! You also realize your home is further away than usual.

    It took me several years to be wary when it seemed so much easier on the way out because of the tailwind. Now if I get into this situation, I turnaround before my regular turnaround point.

    And yes I too have been passed by an old GEEZER!! Greybeard was riding a full suspension mountain bike with full on knobby tire making that roaring sound. I was riding my racing bike doing close to 24MPH. This was back in the days... Maybe he was doping

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilingcat View Post
    And yes I too have been passed by an old GEEZER!! Greybeard was riding a full suspension mountain bike with full on knobby tire making that roaring sound. I was riding my racing bike doing close to 24MPH. This was back in the days... Maybe he was doping
    Ha, last Summer DH and I were out on a 75 mile ride. About 50 miles in we cut over to a section of quiet, rural MUP for about 10 miles. We started gaining on this middle-aged chunky dude on a mountain bike. He took one look at us on our road bikes and took off...for about 5 miles he held us off (we were comfortably cruising at probably no more than 16mph). We passed him at a turn-around where he was soaked in sweat, guzzling water, and quite obviously cooked.

    I don't know if we were just a fun challenge for him or if he had ego issues. But we had a good laugh about it. We were tempted to say "dude, really? We just finished a 50 mile warm-up and have 20 more to go...don't flatter yourself."
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