I've had it!

[sundial]

I was cleaning out my drawers the other day and came across a pair of Terry shorts--the ones that are recommended for distance rides. So I put it on this morning and took it for a long-ish ride.

No more Terry shorts for me. I had one of those rides where it started out great and then the last 12 miles were torture. I felt pain with each pedal stroke. Dumb chamois! Gah!

[redrhodie]

I also had painful situation with terry knickers today. I generally love them, and find them to be the most comfortable bottoms I have, but I just bought a new pair, and I got a small because the lbs I went to was out of mediums. When I tried them on in the store, they seemed to fit just fine. Well, not so on the bike. The whole ride I couldn't stop thinking about them, not in a good way. I think since I wore them it's too late to return them. $80 down the drain

[sundial]

Maybe you can sell them on TE.

[Zen]

I just opened a package from TE containing PI Sugar Knickers.

When I saw that chamois i just about died. IT'S GIGANTIC!!!!

Back they go

[sundial]

Zen, get the 3-D Pro chamois. Not too thick and really wicks the moisture. I have it in my bibs. I'm going to order me another PI with this chamois.

[Blueberry]

I just opened a package from TE containing PI Sugar Knickers.

When I saw that chamois i just about died. IT'S GIGANTIC!!!!

Back they go

What?!?! NO!!!!! They used to have a nice little thin chamois

Why do they have to keep "improving".....

CA

[Becky]

I also had painful situation with terry knickers today. I generally love them, and find them to be the most comfortable bottoms I have, but I just bought a new pair, and I got a small because the lbs I went to was out of mediums. When I tried them on in the store, they seemed to fit just fine. Well, not so on the bike. The whole ride I couldn't stop thinking about them, not in a good way. I think since I wore them it's too late to return them. $80 down the drain

Which ones? If they have the pink chamois (Flex Air), I'd be interested.

[redrhodie]

Which ones? If they have the pink chamois (Flex Air), I'd be interested.

Yes, there's they have the pink flex air chamois. I only wore them for 18 miles. PM me if you're interested. I'll discount them, of course.

[Tuckervill]

I went to the PI outlet in North Conway, NH last week.

I have the PI Sugar shorts, in a large, 2007 model. I was getting wary about them since I lost 48 lbs. The chamois seems too thick and bunches up. I liked them last year. I talked to the guy about it, who seemed knowledgeable. He said PI made all their chamois the same thickness for 2008. I bought some mediums, just in case it was the size difference.

On my Saturday ride, I had chafing, although I didn't feel the chamois bunch up anymore. It was the first time I ever used a lube on my chamois. It helped a lot, but I don't want to have to use lube every time.

I think now I'm realizing the thick part of the chamois is too wide at the narrowest part, compared to some Canari's and LG's that I have. They're still wearable, though.

Karen

[berkeley]

I swore PI's 3d elite was bigger than it used to be! I have an older pair of the ultrasensors, which has the 3d elite - and I love them, but when I went to the store to get another pair the chamois seemed ginormous.

I will say that the sugar knickers (with the 3d tour) are also HUGE, but felt fine on the bike.

[Zen]

I don't know what I was thinking when I ordered them. I'll just take unlined and wear tri shorts under them.

[Miranda]

I used to love those PI Sugars. That sent me in a whole blab about spin class shorts one thread. That new chamois is just gross. FWIW, the Terry club short has a thin single piece polar fleece chamois "similiar" to the old Sugar. But not exact. I ALSO had the same hissy cow about my PI ultrasensors... I started having issues like a seam. The color of the chamois was different... so something in that lovely upgrade *bleah* must have changed. Now, I'm back to the drawing board with some more things on order.

Also, besides the Terry club short... I did not like the chamois on the Terry shorts, or the fabric. I think part of the deal for me is the sitz bone width. I've started measuring my chamois points, just like saddles. My dress maker tape measure is always out in action. OK, so they get a "puff" pad in one section of the short... but if your sitz bone is not on that "puff" exactly, so what... a waste, that's what.

The Terry shorts fabric I tried sorta reminds me of 70's grainy poly leisure suits. The club short seems a lil bit less grain... or maybe it's that I wear it an hour for spin class, vs a long road ride.

[Crankin]

Miranda, are you talking about the Terry Bellas? Or the regular T shorts? I love the Bellas. Yes, the fabric is shiny, but it's tight and full of lycra. The more lycra the better for me.
Chamois is so individual. I could never go back to wearing the thin, one dimensional chamois of the old Terry shorts. My bum actually hurts if I wear shorts like that now. On the other hand, I have a pair of Shebeest with a very similar chamois to the Bellas. But, it's just a bit thicker. The first few times I wore them, ow! Especially when I wore them to spin class and the saddle there was well, not good with those shorts. It took washing them about 5-6 times to wear them down. Now I save those for long, hot rides.

[sundial]

... but if your sitz bone is not on that "puff" exactly, so what... a waste, that's what.

Exactly! I can't seem to fit Terry saddles OR chamois.

I have a Sugoi Gusta mtb short and the chamois is awesome. I wonder if the road bike stuff is as comfie.

[roadie gal]

Miranda, are you talking about the Terry Bellas? Or the regular T shorts? I love the Bellas. Yes, the fabric is shiny, but it's tight and full of lycra. The more lycra the better for me.
Chamois is so individual. I could never go back to wearing the thin, one dimensional chamois of the old Terry shorts. My bum actually hurts if I wear shorts like that now. On the other hand, I have a pair of Shebeest with a very similar chamois to the Bellas. But, it's just a bit thicker. The first few times I wore them, ow! Especially when I wore them to spin class and the saddle there was well, not good with those shorts. It took washing them about 5-6 times to wear them down. Now I save those for long, hot rides.

I bought a pair of the Bellas. Ugh! I felt like I was squeezing myself into a sausage casing! Now the T-shorts, that's a different story. I LOVE that fabric, it's supportive without being constrictive.

The chamois on all of them, the pink one, is WAY too thick for me by and large. I don't know why they have to make them so huge...