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  1. #1
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    OT - Freakin' out dog -Advise?

    Thunderstorms seem to be getting more frequent in Northern California and my dog just goes completely bonkers. I was hoping those who live in areas where T-storms have always been common might offer some advice as to how to calm down the dog.

    It's hard to ride the next day when your dog kept you up all night!

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    I'd call the vet. Probably hurts the little guys ears!
    Nancy

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    Where is the dog during the storms? In the house in the bedroom with you? Outside?
    Frends know gud humors when dey is hear it. ~ Da Crockydiles of ZZE.

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    From canismajor.com

    Puppies may pick up fear or discomfort with storms from their people, so it is important to develop a matter-of-fact attitude when dealing with a frightened youngster. Let the pup stay close, reassure him that he's fine, and coax him to play to divert his attention, but don't hover over him, stroke him incessantly, or cuddle him anxiously.

    Storms that develop from rapidly falling barometric pressure can subliminally affect an animal, so the dog may demonstrate anxiety even before the storm can be heard. Again, it is important to reassure the dog that he is fine and to not exaggerate the situation.

    Dogs that continue to panic when a storm approaches and dogs that develop such apprehension as adults may have to be reconditioned. Some behaviorists recommend creating an artificial storm with environmental tapes or stereo recordings. The reconditioning procedure is time-consuming but has a high success rate.

    # Begin by finding the dog a safe place on a rug or a bed that he thinks of as his own. Then play with the dog in the vicinity of the rug, teach him to down-stay on the rug, and feed him treats there. Use a particularly appealing treat, not simply a dog biscuit.

    # When the dog is comfortable on the rug, turn on the recording very softly, so you can barely hear it. Give him a bit of treat every few seconds unless he is showing signs of anxiety. The reward should be for a lack of fear; giving the treat when he is panting, drooling, or otherwise escalating nervousness rewards the fear itself. After a few minutes, increase the volume of the recorded storm. If the dog becomes fearful, lower the volume for another five minutes, then raise it again, ever so slightly. The idea is to create a storm that rumbles in, rages for a few minutes, then travels on.

    # When the dog is relaxed on his rug during a half-hour "storm," play the recordings under different circumstances--when the dog is eating, when you are working about the house in other rooms, etc. Then, when the dog is relaxed under these circumstances, set the stereo on a timer and leave the house for a short time. Remember to set the volume low at first.

    Thunderstorms are a constant presence in most area's summers, leaving little time to desensitize a dog in between episodes. If a storm happens between sessions, do what you can to calm the dog without adding to his panic. If he needs a dark room, let him have it. If he wants to lean against your leg, let him do so. If he follows you from room to room, accept his presence without overreacting. If you have successfully been using mild tranquilizers, continue treatment until reconditioning is complete.
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    I really like the techniques of Matthew Margolis, aka "Uncle Matty." He has a searchable training database with what sounds like a good suggestion - essentially building the dog's comfort and confidence level.

    http://www.unclematty.com/training/selftrain.htm

    Just saw Nancy's post. Essentially the same recommendation, only with much more detail.
    Frends know gud humors when dey is hear it. ~ Da Crockydiles of ZZE.

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    Wow - what great resources! I also love the Monks of New Skete book - their whole focus is making sure the dog is secure - a lot like what Nanci's post recommended.

    We're pretty lucky - our boy is PBD (pretty but dumb) and oblivious to lightning, storms, cats, whatever. (He's a stud dog for Guide Dogs for the Blind so they breed them calm and dumb - I mean compliant. )

    Good luck Deanna. Also, what about just wearing him out with exercise before a storm?
    Sarah

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    The Monks of New Skete, absolutely! Their alpha dog technique got "us" through the rebellious times. A standard poodle who knows he is smarter than we definitely took a lot of rolling over. The dog trainer I used took one look at him in puppy class and told me to come to her open-mixed class before Izaak became bored and a troublemaker. I once stood for 5 mins in the middle of a circle of obedience trials dogs with him on his back until he relented. It worked . . . though he still makes his opinions known!
    Last edited by SadieKate; 03-30-2006 at 10:51 AM.
    Frends know gud humors when dey is hear it. ~ Da Crockydiles of ZZE.

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    And whatever you do, when the storm is raging and pupster is shaking in his boots, do not pet him and say it's alright. That reinforces that shaking and being scared is what he should do, and makes it worse. My last dog got to the point of needing a doggie downer when there were bad storms.

    Chloe is totally different, she barks at thunder ("how dare you disturb me!"), and runs and plays in the rain and hail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SadieKate
    The Monks of New Skete, absolutely! Their alpha dog technique got "us" through the rebellious times. A standard poodle who knows he is smarter than we definitely took a lot of rolling over. The dog trainer I used took one look at him in puppy class and told me to come to her open-mixed class before Izaak became bored and a troublemaker. I once stood for 5 mins in the middle of a circle of obedience trails dogs with him on his back until he relented. It worked . . . though he still makes his opinions known!

    I did that with my rottie when she was a puppy several times, and she really got it. Thereafter she followed me everywhere, and would stand on the hood of my car to prevent me from leaving her.
    Sarah

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    I knew there was a reason I felt like I'd known you for forever MP - the Maine connection and a Rottie. We lost our girl a few years ago. Our old cat refuses to give us permission to get another dog. She's 17, so we let her have her way.

    Deanna I feel sorry for your pooch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veronica
    I knew there was a reason I felt like I'd known you for forever MP - the Maine connection and a Rottie. We lost our girl a few years ago. Our old cat refuses to give us permission to get another dog. She's 17, so we let her have her way.

    Deanna I feel sorry for your pooch.

    V.
    V - Oh the Rottie connection!

    My rottie, Meg, was my soulmate. I got her in law school when I was living alone (after the stabbing across the street from my apartment...). She was with me through law school, boyfriends, first jobs, marriage, kid and moving from San Diego to Marin. Em still remembers her. She died at 10, right after we started cycling in 2001. I didn't have the heart to get another rottie right away, so we got a lab. Next dog, though.

    Yeah, let the cat be queen while she can. But you have to get another dog eventually!
    Sarah

    When it's easy, ride hard; when it's hard, ride easy.


    2011 Volagi Liscio
    2010 Pegoretti Love #3 "Manovelo"
    2011 Mercian Vincitore Special
    2003 Eddy Merckx Team SC - stolen
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