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    Climbing advice

    Looking for some advice on standing when going uphill. All the hills I have cycled so far I have stayed in the saddle for but there are a few around here (including a 15 degree gradiant) that I would like to attack soon. These ones are steep and look like they may need some out of the saddle work to achieve the top.

    I have been giving it a little try on some of the smaller hills around here but well lets just be honest and say I SUCK at this. The bike moves so much to each side it scares the beejeepers out of me.

    Can you mountain climbing ladies offer up some good tips PLEASE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trekhawk
    Looking for some advice on standing when going uphill. All the hills I have cycled so far I have stayed in the saddle for but there are a few around here (including a 15 degree gradiant) that I would like to attack soon. These ones are steep and look like they may need some out of the saddle work to achieve the top.
    First off, attack the hill at a good pace without mashing the pedals. As the hill gets harder, keep shifting to easier gears and again - don't mash. Depending on your gearing and the steepness of the hill, you might want to shift to one slightly harder gear before you stand. That way, if you need to sit before cresting the hill, you can shift to an easier gear and not beat yourself up too badly.

    Sometimes I'll stand when I still have a few gears left. The key is to always have an easier gear to get into if you need to sit.

    If your bike is rocking sideways, you're using your upper body excessively. Concentrate on using your glutes and pushing in a straight line. Rocking back & forth wildly uses energy that you need to conserve to get up the hill. You will have some rocking, but you shouldn't be tipping over
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    Here are 3 tips I have learned (I'm not very good at any of them yet!)

    1. point your toes down, and let the weight of the leg sort of "fall" down on the downstroke (from Jobob's DH)

    2. place the hands out on the hoods for better stability (my LBS guy told me this) When I'm going up a hill in the saddle, I usually have my hands a few inches apart on either side of the stem, not on the hoods, and I was leaving them there when I stood - which is not so stable!

    3. (this is what Dogmamma said) - position your glutes directly over the leg that is on the downstroke so the motion is straight down from hip to knee to pedal, then just a slight shift over to the other side for same thing - the bike stays as vertical as possible, but the cyclist moves just enought to get maximum power. (a cycling coach pal of SadieKate's explained this to me just last week.) I watch strong climbers go past me on hills all the time, and this is definitely what they are doing.

    So now for my question: Now that I see these tips all in one place, it seems like maybe #1 is a technique for "resting" and breaking up the drudgery and pain of climbing in the saddle, as compared to #3, which is more a power and strength approach up the hill. Is that right? Hmm.

    I'm doing a hill rde a little later this morning, and I'm going to practice...

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    Thanks for the advice when I get out for my next ride I will give it a whirl.
    I will let you know when it all comes together - but I wouldnt be holding your breath for that post this may take a little time.
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    also consider pulling. It can increase your speed going up, which can minimize climbing time, but it also takes more out of you. but it is more efficient, which is part of what standing is about.

    while your body is pushing the weight down on one pedal, you are pulling the other up. It eats up the distance much faster.

    I'd say this requires much practice, as climbing standing burns me out quickly, but if I calculate how I get burned still sitting, I'd say the energy usage is almost the same. It comes down to my mental ability. If I think I'll collapse before I make it up if I take the "long" way, then I stand, and push-pull up the distance, and arrive at the top panting and breathing, and thinking I did it!!!

    You could try practicing standing and pedaling on flats if you are having problems rocking. Your hips should rock slightly, but the bike not so much. Once you get the balance and feel down, it shouldn't be a problem to apply to climbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladyjai
    You could try practicing standing and pedaling on flats if you are having problems rocking. Your hips should rock slightly, but the bike not so much. Once you get the balance and feel down, it shouldn't be a problem to apply to climbs.
    ladyjai - thanks for the tips. I will try it on the flat and maybe some small hills until I get a bit better and a little more confident. Perserverance is fast becoming my middle name as I tackle new biking challenges and having this pool of great knowledge and support at TE really helps.

    Thank You all.
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    One other thing I do that is weird or so I've been told .

    I do my standing climbs from the drops not the hoods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veronica
    One other thing I do that is weird or so I've been told .

    I do my standing climbs from the drops not the hoods.

    V.

    me too......and I had never thought about doing it any other way until you had mentioned your prediliction on a previous thread! (whew....my mental biorthym must be waaay up today). I have since tried riding on the hoods while doing a standing climb but it just ain't right!!
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