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    What's the new 'epic'?

    I recently sent a message to a cycling company telling them I found their use of the word 'epic' as it relates to rides to be pretentious and overused.

    I had completely forgotten about it, didn't really expect an answer. I was sort of just poking a stick at them, you know? Like giving your little sister a wet willy.

    Imagine my surprise to find a response in my mailbox. It made me think and consider the use of the word from various angles. When I finally formulate my answer I'm sure it will be well reasoned and insightful .

    What it comes down to is this- the writer challenged me to come up with a suitable substitute for 'epic'.
    I don't think there is one.
    To me, 'epic' is subjective.

    Is there another word?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zen View Post
    I was sort of just poking a stick at them, you know?
    Noooo. You? Really?
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    I don't think anyone who hasn't spent a semester translating Beowulf, the Iliad, the Odyssey or the Aeneid should be permitted to use the word "epic" at all.

    Just MHO.
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    How about 'awesome'?
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    (I nominate Zen to be one of the founding editors of the new magazine for women bikers....) as for synonyms for epic...how about Long or Difficult?
    Last edited by elk; 08-05-2008 at 09:00 PM.
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    Hey, I think we saw this and had exactly the same reaction! Was it a catalog, maybe? Or some kind of marketing publication, anyway, I think. They described several rides all as being "epic" and we kind of rolled our eyes at each other and said, "Boy, that's kind of grandiose, isn't it?"---I guess epic to me implies extraordinary magnitude. I can't remember the specifics anymore about the rides, but they weren't THAT dramatic.
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    Salsa, you probably did see the same thing.
    It was Rapha and their site says "we welcome your ideas and feedback".
    So...I fed them

    I think the whole thing is testosterone-related.
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    Didn't the use of "epic" originate with mtb'ers? To me, it's like the slang that skateboarders and surfers use, totally serious yet tongue-in-cheek at the same time.
    "How about if we all just try to follow these very simple rules of the road? Drive like the person ahead on the bike is your son/daughter. Ride like the cars are ambulances carrying your loved ones to the emergency room. This should cover everything, unless you are a complete sociopath."
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    It was epic, like, you know, totally awesome, dude
    Beth

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    The English language is rich with adjectives, but we seem to get stuck in ruts using the hip and trendy adjectives du jour. No different, I suppose, than people who use the f-bomb. Instead of one-size-fits-all it is one-word-describes all. Until the next great word comes along.

    As an aside, we did a bike tour with one of these "wine and dine" companies. The brochure promised 20-60 miles/day so we signed up expecting to do the long option every day. Oh, those were the "epic routes"--were we sure we wanted to do them? Uh....one of the "epic routes" was 40 miles with a 1% gradient down a long, straight road. Besides the fact that few did the route, what made made it "epic"? It was just a nice ride. No beasts were slain. No battles won.

 

 

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