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If you knew me, which you don't......you would know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that I sincerely meant no disrespect....
And that my feelings are hurt greatly that one might think that I did.
I was up in the middle of the night and just taking a moment to appreciate my cycling buddy. Something I don't do enough of.
Goodness gracious! what is wrong with people?! Of course your post was a joke, and there is no need to apologize.
V.
Silver, no need to apologize. I think it is absolutely wonderful that Mr. Silver encourages you to ride and that you both enjoy your time on your bikes.
You guys are the reason I started posting. Mrs. is talking classes until April and has basically no online time, so I keep taps of what is happening. I appreciate both of you.
Ah, I didn't mean your post, Silver. I meant the one that replied to yours...
This is what happens when you get up too early and write stuff!
Robyn, I know you didn't mean my post. But thanks for saying so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robyn Maislin
There are offensive things that are said offensivelyThere are unoffensive things that are heard offensively.and
Is the sayer responsible for the receiver's hearing? Sometimes, but usually not.
Silver is a non-confrontational person. She would never intentionally upset anyone. So, she removed a thread based on the perception of a single person who has chosen to process anything related to me as being offensive.
Personally, I think it's time for the person that hurt Silver's feelings to apologize directly to her. I'd appreciate someone passing that message on to her since she's made it clear that she ignores me simply because I'm a man. If she wants to ignore me, then encourage her to ignore Silver as well because we're a package deal...and we're here to stay.
In life, people either like me or they don't, and I accept that. But NO ONE DISLIKES SILVER and she didn't deserve that attack.
Well said. To ignore or disrespect anyone because of his/her gender is not nice. I feel the same way about my husband; we are a package deal. I guess that's why I had a strong reaction to the comment.
Well - I looked, and couldn't find whatever the post/thread was this whole thread is referring to... but for what its worth Silver you have never posted anything I have ever found offensive
Thought provoking - yes
Able to be construed as contraversial - I guess so
Inspirational - definately
Offensive? - zip, nyada, never...
I have no idea what transpired here but I will say that there are many here who put men on their ignore list to keep with the intent of this being a women's forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robyn Maislin
There are others who have ignore lists for whoknowswhat reason but the point being that for whatever reason, "ignore" is an option open to everyone.
Disrespect is entirely different.
I don't know the history here, either, but having been on the sidelines in several other struggles where a women-only space (d)evolved into something less special, I can see why there would be a lot of continuing hard feelings. So while I would hope those on the losing end would be able to find somewhere else and not hold onto their grudges here, I would be sad to lose them, and I would also hope the "winners" would show discretion, too. And I'm sure, Silver, that you meant no disrespect.
For the record, my male DH is an essential part of my life, too, but I'm not entirely comfortable with the fact that he does lurk (not post) in at least one women-only forum I'm on. And he absolutely is not invited to any f2f women's space that I participate in, and he is entirely comfortable with that.
I did see the thread, and when I read the comment in question I went whoa...that is gonna cause some "discussion".
Silver, I did not take your thread as offensive, I thought it was funny and a poke at Mr. Siver.
If I were you, I too, would have been offended.
Ruth
I didn't see the original post but I can't imagine Silver posting anything even close to offensive. I enjoy Mr Silver's posts and find it quite refreshing that a man can be so respectful (and witty) in a predominantly womens' forum. There are probably many men that lurk and do not post here and as long as they play nice everything goes smoothly. I would suggest that whoever finds Mr. Silver's presence here inappropriate also put Silver on ignore because she has every right to talk about him as do all of us regarding our significant other.
Well said Cindyloo!
I like the Silver's. They have both been very supportive and insightful. And I would not block them at all. And Mr Silver has always followed the rules.
I second what cindyloo said. Granted I don't know Silver personally but from my time spent here with TE I have never seen any offensive posts by Silver. I welcome any member, female or male that offers such great insight and ideas as the Silvers do. There are some people that need to have their " women only" sites and I can respect that but please try not to hurt or disrespect others that have done no harm.
Let's just give it a rest.
Or a "respectful" burial.
Yes please.Quote:
Originally Posted by zencentury
Reposting what I said when MSG Hall joined the board....
"This forum is dedicated to women's cycling. However, that doesn't mean that only women cyclists are welcome here. We have a very small minority of men on these forums who enjoy participating in the lively discussions we have here. As long as posts are on-topic and not inappropriate, then they are welcome.
Regrettably, a small number of women here feel that men should not be permitted. That men somehow spoil the "girls locker room" feel that tends to develop, especially since many of the conversations are quite frank. This in and of itself tends to weed out most of the men who wander in here Nonetheless, we will not ask men to leave as long as they play nice."
While everyone is entitled to her own opinion, I will not allow this debate to rage on over and over again. Let it rest. If you don't want to read what the men have to say, put them on ignore. If you don't want to read a THREAD about one of the men, then don't. But I do not want to see this issue tear the board apart. The few men we have on this board have been quite pleasant to have around, and have added to the conversations in a meaningful way. If we get someone on the boards, MALE OR FEMALE, who does not respect the forum's intent and tone, that person will be asked to moderate behavior, or will be asked to leave.
Thank you.
Susan
or go on to talk about chocolate. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by zencentury
ditto what cindyloo said!
Yes chocolate! Oh how I love thee and the small bag of M&Ms is calling my name from the fridge!
Ah, Chocolate Rain!
chocolate to the rescue! I tried Ghiradelli 50% semi sweet chips for a treat. Not sure I like them as much as the Special Dark chips, though. I'll have to do a double-blind taste test, I guess.