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  1. #16
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    cotter pins

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trek420
    DebW "Sure glad they are a thing of the past. But if you've got an old Motobecane Mixte from around 1970, it probably has them."

    yep, ah, so that's why my LBS has them sorta off to the side on the bike. Have to talk with them about semi-affordable replacement. But the Mixte is a keeper I think, she's gonna fit me and be the "urban assualt bike".
    I didn't mean to imply that cotter pins are completely awful, just that modern cotterless cranks are much better. Cotter pins were used for decades and generally worked OK. You do need to remove them periodically to repack the bottom bracket. And you should have a spare set of pins because sometimes they get munged as you remove them. If you or your LBS can remove the current set of cotterpins and the crank and BB are otherwise in good shape, there is no pressing reasons to replace the whole setup. If you extract the cotter pins once a year to service your BB, they should never get stuck.

    BTW, cranksets that take cotter pins are made of steel, not alloy. Steel is not as stiff and the chainrings can get out of round. You may also notice them flexing when you stand on the bike. Rotate the crank and look at the chainring wobble. Sometimes it's bad enough to cause the front derailleur to scrape. The good thing is that if the chainrings get out of round, you can bend them back with something like a large (18") screwdriver. It's kind of like truing a wheel with brute force. Gee, now I'm feeling nostalgic - never thought I'd miss steel cranksets. If you lived near me, Trek420, I'd be at your house tomorrow truing those chainrings.

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    Quote:

    "Everytime I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the human race." H. G. Wells

    That made my day, maybe even my week.

    I feel like I am in my proper little pond, here.

    I don't feel like a misfit. A few weeks ago, I was on a women's cruise, and one woman was discussing here sails. It felt so good to here all the technical terms come out of a woman's mouth, and women doing shoptalk. With men, there was often a question of why they were offering to help me. They sometimes expected a reward. And dealing with husbands of jealous wives, I was regarded as a threat, because why was I going along on a caving trip, and spending the weekend with five guys. And all I wanted to do was get underground, not under the sheets!

    I LOVE it when you gals talk dirty bikes to me!

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    Hey Trek420,

    what kind of components are you pulling off of your motobecane mixte for the fixte project? I am always in serious fear that something on mine will break and I'll have to scramble. Well, that I will be in the middle of nowhere and I'll have to track down a swiss bottom bracket, or something stupid like that...

    Also, gals, i got an old bike with cottered cranks, and found it was not hard at all to switch them out (despite scepticism from the bike shop guy).

    What I did was I brought in the old spindle (for the french thread bb) to a bike store that has used parts. I sized it up to a used square-taper spindle, for my replacement. then i got some used cranks of a _slightly_ more modern vintage to match, and no more steel cranks to weigh me down.

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    DebW "Gee, now I'm feeling nostalgic - never thought I'd miss steel cranksets. If you lived near me, Trek420, I'd be at your house tomorrow truing those chainrings."

    well, you could always move

    I can see it now "Dear family? Dear job? I have to move to CA, there's this 20 year old French bike, we met online....I know you'll say it can't last but she's the most beautiful shade of light green, I must true her chainrings"

    Rai Sue, stay tuned, the Motobecane kinda got sidetracked while I got new wheels for the commuter. since that's the bike i use often the mixte-fixie went on the back burner.
    Last edited by Trek420; 07-05-2006 at 09:04 PM.
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    My LBS just called and the Mixte Fixie is ready. If the traffic and forced overtime Gods are with me I might pick it up tonight (if not he's off to Vegas for the Bike expo, and I'll see her later).

    Pictures...... doesn't do the color justice
    Last edited by Trek420; 11-19-2011 at 03:54 PM.
    Fancy Schmancy Custom Road bike ~ Mondonico Futura Legero
    Found on side of the road bike ~ Motobecane Mixte
    Gravel bike ~ Salsa Vaya
    Favorite bike ~ Soma Buena Vista mixte
    Folder ~ Brompton
    N+1 ~ My seat on the Rover recumbent tandem
    https://www.instagram.com/pugsley_adventuredog/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trek420 View Post
    My LBS just called and the Mixte Fixie is ready. If the traffic and forced overtime Gods are with me I might pick it up tonight (if not he's off to Vegas for the Bike expo, and I'll see her later).

    Pictures as soon as I get 'em.
    Woo Hoo!! Pictures!! Pictures!!

    I want details. Did it keep the steel cottered crankset?
    Oil is good, grease is better.

    2007 Peter Mooney w/S&S couplers/Terry Butterfly
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    1980 Columbus Frame with 1970 Campy parts
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    Quote Originally Posted by DebW View Post
    Woo Hoo!! Pictures!! Pictures!!

    I want details. Did it keep the steel cottered crankset?
    I don't know yet Are cottered cranksets a good thing?
    Last edited by Trek420; 11-19-2011 at 03:54 PM.
    Fancy Schmancy Custom Road bike ~ Mondonico Futura Legero
    Found on side of the road bike ~ Motobecane Mixte
    Gravel bike ~ Salsa Vaya
    Favorite bike ~ Soma Buena Vista mixte
    Folder ~ Brompton
    N+1 ~ My seat on the Rover recumbent tandem
    https://www.instagram.com/pugsley_adventuredog/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trek420 View Post
    I don't know yet Are cottered cranksets a good thing?
    No, but they're vintage. And if you kept the steel cottered chainrings, someday I might show up at your house with this and true those babies. OTOH, if it's now a fixie, you won't really care too much if they go out of true.
    Oil is good, grease is better.

    2007 Peter Mooney w/S&S couplers/Terry Butterfly
    1993 Bridgestone MB-3/Avocet O2 Air 40W
    1980 Columbus Frame with 1970 Campy parts
    1954 Raleigh 3-speed/Brooks B72

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    It doesn't have the cottered cranks, I can probably get them if you want 'em?
    Last edited by Trek420; 11-30-2008 at 11:02 AM.
    Fancy Schmancy Custom Road bike ~ Mondonico Futura Legero
    Found on side of the road bike ~ Motobecane Mixte
    Gravel bike ~ Salsa Vaya
    Favorite bike ~ Soma Buena Vista mixte
    Folder ~ Brompton
    N+1 ~ My seat on the Rover recumbent tandem
    https://www.instagram.com/pugsley_adventuredog/

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    Oh, yeah... DuckOnWheels and I are gonna love riding that Motobecane!
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    Yeah? C'mon down then. Sorry this one's a little blurry but check out the bars.
    Last edited by Trek420; 11-19-2011 at 03:54 PM.
    Fancy Schmancy Custom Road bike ~ Mondonico Futura Legero
    Found on side of the road bike ~ Motobecane Mixte
    Gravel bike ~ Salsa Vaya
    Favorite bike ~ Soma Buena Vista mixte
    Folder ~ Brompton
    N+1 ~ My seat on the Rover recumbent tandem
    https://www.instagram.com/pugsley_adventuredog/

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    moustache or albatross? (I'm guessing they're Nittos)

    Is she home? Where is she parked? Does she have a name, or is she still the Mixte Fixte?
    Last edited by KnottedYet; 09-25-2007 at 08:26 PM.
    "If Americans want to live the American Dream, they should go to Denmark." - Richard Wilkinson

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    The shininess of that brand new chain is kinda scaring me.
    Drink coffee and do stupid things faster with more energy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnottedYet View Post
    moustache or albatross? (I'm guessing they're Nittos)

    Is she home? Where is she parked? Does she have a name, or is she still the Mixte Fixte?
    shes still needs pedals, I was just visiting but the shop was all abuzz about her. No new name yet.
    Fancy Schmancy Custom Road bike ~ Mondonico Futura Legero
    Found on side of the road bike ~ Motobecane Mixte
    Gravel bike ~ Salsa Vaya
    Favorite bike ~ Soma Buena Vista mixte
    Folder ~ Brompton
    N+1 ~ My seat on the Rover recumbent tandem
    https://www.instagram.com/pugsley_adventuredog/

 

 

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