OC July 30th ride

**bcipam** · 07-25-2006, 02:12 PM

Just a note on the mileage to stops and such... I know everyone is different but I can't emphasize enough especially since this is training for a century to fuel on a regular basis. This will be especially important in the heat. Going 30 miles without taking in substance and then planning on another 30 without a stop can cause a real bonk situation especially if out in the saddle for while (like 3, 4,5 6 hours). Hopefully during the century everyone plans on stopping at each sag to fuel. The sags are usually every 15 - 20 miles. Once you hit 75 - 80 miles and your system still has reserves your body will thank you. I plan on taking GU/Beans/Balance Bars and after the first hour will most likely try to GU or Bean every 30 - 45 minutes through-out the ride. I'm hoping to treat this ride just as I would the century and want to finish feeling good (if its not Africa hot out and I get dehydrated).

Just another thing to consider, if the weather doesn't break - be flexible with the ride. No sense riding inland, doing hills, when it's incredibly hot. Don't want a bunch of sick, dehydrated folks on your hands.

The nice thing is Cool Breeze generally is well cool when elsewhere it's hot. Heat does not have to be part of your training.

**Brandy** · 07-25-2006, 03:37 PM

I plan on a stop at the top of Jamboree and Chapman/Santiago to regroup, refuel and refill water bottles at the mini-mart at the Chevron station before we begin the climbing on Santiago Canyon Road. It won't be a problem to stop before or after that planned stopped either...it all depends on what the group needs. I just wanted to make sure that there was an opportunity to stop and to get water before we head in.

After lunch if stops need to be made, that's not a problem either. On the BF ride we did last week, if anyone needed to stop at anytime, we all stopped. It was never an issue or problem with the group and everyone welcomed the short breaks.

BTW Pam...I see that BCI is doing Santiago Canyon Road on Sunday as well...looks like we'll be trailing them!

Please send me your email address if you would like a route slip. Just a warning, the beginning is a little bit confusing with regards to crossing Jamboree and entering the San Diego Creek Trail. I'm sure that we'll all be together at that point though and we can just make sure that there is a person leading who knows where they're going.

Same goes for exiting the SD Creek Trail and then entering the Shady Canyon Path. I'm sure it will all be fine though!

**bcipam** · 07-25-2006, 09:30 PM

Interesting that BCI is doing the Canyon on Sunday as well. Lately Sunday rides have been very sparse. Most folks don't like to get up and ride at 8other tahn July and August rides start at 9). And alot of folks have been opting for the Beach rides which are also offered when its hot. I would predict the group will be heading South not North.

Are you bringing slips to the ride on Sunday? If so, that's cool otherwise I'll have you email me one beforehand. I'm still waiting to see what the weather is like. I rode this evening and it was actually pleasant but there's a big difference in climbing hills at 7 pm when the sun is setting and the breeze comes up and 9:30 - 10am when the sun is getting high and there is no breeze.

Will be interesting to see who all shows up. Riding through the Canyon sometimes, more is better - more visible.

**caligurl** · 07-25-2006, 09:40 PM

i rode (climbed) today after work... it was 112 and humid when i left.... i think sunday's temps will be a pleasant surprise!

brandy and tiff... you've put a LOT of work into planning this ride! i know we're all gonna have a BLAST!

**Brandy** · 07-26-2006, 01:28 AM

Looks like they're going the same way that we are...

July 30 (Route Slip – SUN09)
Food stop: Diedrich’s - Mission Viejo, La Paz & Chrisanta
Medium: 32 miles, rolly - Portola, Irvine Bl, El Toro, Marguerite, Muirlands
Long: 40 miles, 2200’ Climb - Jamboree, Sanitago Cyn, Marguerite, Muirlands

Interestingly, I found this out when I googled the term "Starbucks Portola Glenn Ranch" because they had stopped there on one of their other rides...lol.

**Brandy** · 07-26-2006, 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by caligurl

i rode (climbed) today after work... it was 112 and humid when i left.... i think sunday's temps will be a pleasant surprise!

brandy and tiff... you've put a LOT of work into planning this ride! i know we're all gonna have a BLAST!

I'm so glad that you decided to come!

**bcipam** · 07-26-2006, 05:48 AM

Originally Posted by Brandy

Looks like they're going the same way that we are...

July 30 (Route Slip – SUN09)
Food stop: Diedrich’s - Mission Viejo, La Paz & Chrisanta
Medium: 32 miles, rolly - Portola, Irvine Bl, El Toro, Marguerite, Muirlands
Long: 40 miles, 2200’ Climb - Jamboree, Sanitago Cyn, Marguerite, Muirlands

Interestingly, I found this out when I googled the term "Starbucks Portola Glenn Ranch" because they had stopped there on one of their other rides...lol.

The BCI ride is scheduled to head off over to Mission Viejo. Once they hit Portola, they keep going East where Portola turns into Marguerite - gosh I hope we aren't heading at that way???? And yep I know of the Starbucks stop becuase I've been there with BCI. just 2 weeks ago as a matter of fact. There's alot of space out back, perfect for bikes and cyclists.

After the Starbucks stop which direction does your ride go - towards El Toro or Bake?

**Brandy** · 07-26-2006, 07:06 AM

After the food stop we head towards Bake.

Bonita Creek Park , Newport Beach
La Vida and University, just off Jamboree near the 73 Toll Road
• Turn Left on University
• Cross Jamboree
• Turn Right onto San Diego Creek Trail
Entrance on sidewalk
• Exit San Diego Creek Trail @ Harvard
• North on Harvard
• Turn Left on Walnut
• Turn Right on Jamboree
Please regroup @
shopping center on
SW corner of Jamboree/
Santiago Canyon
• Turn right on Santiago Canyon
Becomes El Toro
• Turn Right on Glenn Ranch
• Cross Portola and regroup for
lunch at Starbucks/Wahoo’s
• Turn Left on Portola
• Turn Left on Bake
• Turn Right on Muirlands
Becomes Barranca
• Turn Left on Laguna Canyon
• Turn Right on Quail Hill
• Turn Left at Shady Canyon
roundabout
• Enter bikepath on right
• Take fork on the left at
the end of the path
• Turn Left on Shady Canyon
• Turn Left on Bonita Canyon
• Turn Left on Newport Coast
• Turn Right on San Joaquin Hills
• Turn Right on MacArthur
• Turn Left on Ford
Becomes Eastbluff

Back Bay Loop Option
• Turn Left on Back Bay Drive
• Follow Tiff!

Back to Bonita Creek Park Option
• Take Eastbluff (becomes University)
across Jamboree
• Right on La Vida

**Brandy** · 07-26-2006, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by bcipam

And yep I know of the Starbucks stop becuase I've been there with BCI. just 2 weeks ago as a matter of fact. There's alot of space out back, perfect for bikes and cyclists.
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I thought it was perfect because there are so many options for food, all within that one small strip. Should be something there to make everyone happy.

**Tiffanie** · 07-26-2006, 07:10 AM

That "Follow Tiff" part at the start of Back Bay cracks me up!!!

I really don't think I want the group following me down that BB short/fast hill at the very beginning. I mean, what if I fall?!?!?!

Caligirl, I'm so glad you're coming. I didn't know when I would be getting the chance to meet you since I backed out of Cool Breeze.

I CANNOT wait for this ride!

**caligurl** · 07-26-2006, 07:16 AM

brandy and tiff... i want to say that i appreciate all the work you've put into making the ride route for this weekend....

i know we all hope that the weather will be nice... but just like with an organized ride... we can change our minds and go or not go....we most certainly can't just ring up the ride organizers and say "can you change your route cuz of the weather!"

can you EVEN imagine calling debbie at planet ultra an telling her "it's too hot or too cold... so let's go a different way" (you have to know debbie and planet ultra to understand that!

what i'm getting at... is some riders know the route... and can decide to do it or not... others don't (like me) and will treat it the same way they treat ANY organized ride they do... take it as it comes... and go with the flow of the day!

i just want to give you gals an ATTABOY cuz i know that negativity can wear on someone when they are trying so hard to do something nice for everyone!

my heartfelt THANX! and sending only positive vibes!!!!!!

**caligurl** · 07-26-2006, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by Tiffanie

That "Follow Tiff" part at the start of Back Bay cracks me up!!!

I really don't think I want the group following me down that BB short/fast hill at the very beginning. I mean, what if I fall?!?!?!

Caligirl, I'm so glad you're coming. I didn't know when I would be getting the chance to meet you since I backed out of Cool Breeze.

I CANNOT wait for this ride!

well..... if you weren't going to go see tim's behind.....

and *note to self*: do NOT follow tiff at the beginning... stay VERY far away!

**Brandy** · 07-26-2006, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by Tiffanie

That "Follow Tiff" part at the start of Back Bay cracks me up!!!

I really don't think I want the group following me down that BB short/fast hill at the very beginning. I mean, what if I fall?!?!?!

Hey...that part was confusing up past Dover, there's no way I could have written that route out!

**caligurl** · 07-26-2006, 07:27 AM

ok.... i'm sure it's in the 100 pages somewhere.. but how long is this ride?

and what time is it starting, again? ya ya ya... too lazy to go look!

**Brandy** · 07-26-2006, 07:28 AM

Meeting at 8:00 and it's just under 60 with the Back Bay Loop at the end.

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