Mr. Silver says "Silver tried to kill me!!!"

[Mr. Bloom]

Yes Dear, I'm rounding up.

For the record, I'm 5' 6 15/16" tall...not 5'7"

[KSH]

Mr. Silver- what are your caloric goals for each day? Are you aiming for 1200 calories? 1400 calories? Etc.?

How many times a day are you eating?

I looked at your food logs, and I strongly encourage you to start toying with different foods.

The calories you spend on eating rice, could be used elsewhere on something that is more nutritious, less calories, and fills you up more.

The key is learning what low calorie foods fill you up.

I eat around 1800 calories a day, 6-7 times a day, and I never feel hungry. It's hard to stay on a healthy eating plan, if you are hungry all the time.

I'm not an expert by any means... and maybe I just found what works for me.... but I'm not hungry and I lose weight.


PS- Go to www.calorieking.com, to get the calories for what you eat out.

You logged this meal incorrectly: 1 Wendys Chicken Caesar with only 1 dressing about 310 cal.

It was really 540 calories. Now, that's with the croutons and dressing.

200 missed calories in a day can really add up and equal not losing the weight you are expecting to lose... and discourage you.

On the upside though, you may have miscalculated the Arby's sandwhich. A regular roast beef Arby's sandwhich is only 320 calories, vs the 420 you logged.

[mimitabby]

Mr. Silver- what are your caloric goals for each day? Are you aiming for 1200 calories? 1400 calories? Etc.?

How many times a day are you eating?

I looked at your food logs, and I strongly encourage you to start toying with different foods.

The calories you spend on eating rice, could be used elsewhere on something that is more nutritious, less calories, and fills you up more.

The key is learning what low calorie foods fill you up.

I eat around 1800 calories a day, 6-7 times a day, and I never feel hungry. It's hard to stay on a healthy eating plan, if you are hungry all the time.

I'm not an expert by any means... and maybe I just found what works for me.... but I'm not hungry and I lose weight.

KSH, I am hungry a lot. I don't have a weight problem, but I have noticed the last year or two that I can eat all day easily and then I could develop a weight problem. What is it that you eat that keeps you from being hungry?

[KSH]

KSH, I am hungry a lot. I don't have a weight problem, but I have noticed the last year or two that I can eat all day easily and then I could develop a weight problem. What is it that you eat that keeps you from being hungry?

Let me preface this by saying... that by "not hungry" I mean that my tummy isn't growling loudly and I'm not getting mean because I need food.

Sure, at times there is a small rumble, but nothing that I can't ignore. When it's time to eat, I am ready to eat, but I'm not starving. I also tend to go to bed with a little rumble in the tummy- and I really think this is the *key* to it all.

Well, for each person, it's different.

For example, I found out that eating a bagel with PB lasted about 1 hour, and I typically had a dip in my sugar levels after eating one. It was around 400 calories, and not sticking with me.

So, I now eat 2 packages of low sugar oatmeal, at around 320 calories. Sticks with me and fills me up. Much better choice.

That works for me, but maybe not for someone else.

I also know that fruit tastes yummy, but my calories are better spent elsewhere. For the same calories as a large bananna, that won't stay with me longer than 30 minutes... I can get a Kashi Chewy Trail Mix bar that will stay with me for close to 2 hours.

It's really a matter of trial and error and seeing what works and what doesn't. For me, the key when shopping is looking for items with low calories, high protein, and some carbs. Low carb dieting doesn't work for me at all. Just makes me really dizzy all day.

I have found a lot of yummy items that are low in calories, and fill me up.

Good luck!

[Mr. Bloom]

Thanks KSH...Silver chastised me earlier for maintaining a starvation level of intake. So, as always, when my wife speaks, I jump...particularly when she gives me permission to eat!

As to calorie counts...The MEDIUM Arby's is 420 calories...the regular is less.

On the Wendy's salad, you're right...I think I picked up the weigh in grams (350), not the calories...ooops...how convenient.

Keep the accountability coming...keep me honest...keep me healthy

[Triskeliongirl]

I also looked at your food logs, and saw too much rice and meal replacement bars, and too little home cooked meals. Try to up the protein AND vegetable content. Veggies are great to fill up with, low cal, and good for you. I am concerned that this is not a diet you can follow for life, which is what you need for long term success. Silver is slim so obviously she is doing something right. Why not eat the same food as her, and just moderate your portion sizes when in uber weight loss mode? Its easy to count calories in homemade food. Just add up the calories of the ingredients divided by the number of portions. Some computer programs (I use balance log) even let you enter entire recipes and then do all the calculations for you. Also, you can't react every much to daily changes in weight, its the weekly and even monthly changes that have meaning. For those of us that are slow losers daily weigh ins can be discouraging, but one good suggestion I read is to average your daily weigh ins each week, and then plot those averages as a function of time in a spreadsheet, and you should see changes over a period of months.

[silver]

You ladies are wonderful!!!! He actually listens to you all when you say the same things that I've been telling him for years! Thank you! And now I don't have to worry that I'm nagging him.

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

I found a delicious hot cereal that cooks in only 10 minutes and a large serving fills me up ALL MORNING, for like 5 or 6 hours. Bob's Red Mills 7 grain cereal:
http://www.bobsredmill.com/catalog/i...&product_ID=18
They have the 12 grain variety as well, but that has more corn which I don't really want.
I just love Bob's 7 grain, and it keeps me from getting hungry again for a lONG time. It's WAY more nutricious for you than just rice...
I eat it every other day or so. Sometimes I cut up a banana on top. I think whole grains tend to keep you from getting hungry again right away, ...plus they keep your plumbing working well!

I do love steel cut oats and Irish oatmeal, etc, but they tend to take too long to cook for my liking.

[mimitabby]

I found a delicious hot cereal that cooks in only 10 minutes and a large serving fills me up ALL MORNING, for like 5 or 6 hours. Bob's Red Mills 7 grain cereal:
http://www.bobsredmill.com/catalog/i...&product_ID=18
They have the 12 grain variety as well, but that has more corn which I don't really want.
I just love Bob's 7 grain, and it keeps me from getting hungry again for a lONG time. It's WAY more nutricious for you than just rice...
I eat it every other day or so. Sometimes I cut up a banana on top. I think whole grains tend to keep you from getting hungry again right away, ...plus they keep your plumbing working well!

I do love steel cut oats and Irish oatmeal, etc, but they tend to take too long to cook for my liking.

are they really whole or are they ground up? if they're whole you could let them sprout for 24-48 hours and they'd be even better food to eat.

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

Mimi,
The red mills cereal is roughly ground.
In food labels, "whole grain" simply means that they use the whole (entire) grain in the product- the whole grains can be ground, as in this cereal. Like "100% whole wheat" bread- they do grind the whole grains in order to make the bread.
Happily, I haven't had any of this cereal sprout out my ears yet.

[Wahine]

Lisa,

Red Mills has a scottish oatmeal made with whole grains that is roughly ground. It's great with dried berries thrown in and a little honey, stays with me for a long time and cooks up in 10 min like the other cereal you mentioned.

I'm sensitive to wheat (not celiacs or full on allergic) and I have no problems with this cereal.

Everyone has contributed some great food suggestions. I've really enjoyed reading this thread.

[mtbdarby]

Any tips for "learning" to eat hot cereal? I know it's benefits but I simply can NOT stand the texture - oatmeal makes me gag. As does cheesecake, tapioca, rice pudding, etc. Can this be learned or do I just have to find muffin/bread recipes that I can add the oatmeal too or find cold cereals with the same types of ingredients?

[mimitabby]

Any tips for "learning" to eat hot cereal? I know it's benefits but I simply can NOT stand the texture - oatmeal makes me gag. As does cheesecake, tapioca, rice pudding, etc. Can this be learned or do I just have to find muffin/bread recipes that I can add the oatmeal too or find cold cereals with the same types of ingredients?

spread it on bread?

[Wahine]

I also had to learn how to eat hot cereal. It all started when I got a triathlon coach. At that time I didn't eat breakfast at all, just a latte in the morning then a mid morning snack usually. She insisted on breakfast, ie threatened to give me the boot if I didn't start to eat breakfast. When I told er that most morning foods make me nauseated she suggeted instant oatmeal with yogurt and berries or other fruit mixed. I found that the coolness of the yogurt and the chunkiness and solidness of the add-ins kept my nausea at bay. Eventually I learned more about glycemic indexes and healthier food and decided that instant oatmeal is not a good choice, so I tried the Scottish Oatmeal I mentioned above and I was fine with it. Maybe I got used to the texture, maybe I've just changed. I don't know. I still have lots of add-ins. I buy dried berries from Trader Joes - blueberries are my favorite - and sometimes I still add yogurt if I want something cooler and refreshing.

So that's my anecdote. There is absolutely no scientific basis for this method and you might end up gagging it all up just the same but I hope it gives you some ideas.

[silver]

I have an unusual way of eating oatmeal. I mix dry oatmeal (not instant oatmeal) into cottage cheese (fat free) and then mix in a little sugar free strawberry jam for flavor. I don't like hot oatmeal either.