T&P&C to all the TE'rs in the Katrina area

**LBTC** · 09-02-2005, 08:37 AM

Of course we realize that until power is restored we won't hear from any of our girls that live in the area. However, until then, some of us would like to know *if* any of our girls live there! I always think my thoughts & light are more powerful if they have a clear focus, so names help.

By all means, donate to the NGO of your choice. These people need all of the help they can get!

I think our thoughts, prayers, light, chants and all the things we can do may help in a more powerful way if we truly focus.

Let's send the message of healing to New Orleans for desperate people to "put down your guns". If enough of us send the message, the healing may begin.

The Vancouver, British Columbia urban search and rescue team arrived there yesterday, but they've been unable to begin searching because it is too dangerous! I'm proud they are there and heartbroken that they have to wait.

put down your guns, let healing begin
put down your guns, let healing begin
put down your guns, let healing begin

Namaste,
~T~

**Adventure Girl** · 09-02-2005, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by LBTC

However, until then, some of us would like to know *if* any of our girls live there!

I didn't look at all 561 posts (on 38 pages), but I did a search of the "Getting to know" you thread using the "search this thread" function. I tried the words Louisiana, Orleans, Biloxi and Mississippi, and I the search didn't get anything. But that doesn't necessarily mean that there aren't any TE gals there.

**Irulan** · 09-02-2005, 09:12 AM

my thoughts are all over the place.

I hope you California folks are taking notes and reviewing your earthquake preparedness. I'm a former Bay Area resident, and I have deep concerns for my family that resides there, because if the local/national response to this event is any indication, I would suspect that most people aren't nearly as prepared they ought to be for an epic earthquake.

The scientific community has known for year about the potential for this kind of disaster along the coast, in fact in 2001 FEMA listed NO getting hit by a hurricane as a 1/3 chance of happening, but getting politics and science on the same page in this country is a joke. Even Nova and Discovery Channel have consistently run documentaries over the years on the likelihood of this kind of disaster. Not intended to be an I-told-you-so, but there is always some other priority than fixing a city's infrastructure or having a master plan.

Evacuation - were not mandatory prior to the storm. It became a mandatory order after the storm. Disaster planners have known for years that up to 1/3 the population of the city would not leave on a non mandatory evacuation order. Not everyone left in the city is poor. Anyone rememer Harry Truman, the guy who wouldn't leave his home when St. Helen's blew? While many people obviously didnt' have the means to leave on thier own ( no cars, povery etc) there are many people who chose to stay, thinking they could ride it out.

And here's a couple of things I just don't get.
Why were the airports bringing people ( tourists, visitors ) IN to the city as people were evacuating just prior to the storm, on Saturday?
Since when is ICE a necessity? Food, water, medicine, sure, but ICE? Plenty of people live in hot, humid climates without the benefit of air conditioning and ice, ferchirssakes.

ok, done for now I think.

interesting read:
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/inte...372455,00.html

**drplasma64** · 09-02-2005, 09:40 AM

Irulan, ice is necessary for many reasons. One being the risks of heat stroke. yes, plenty of people live in hot humid places without a/c, but to put 25,000 people in the superdome (for example) without electricity, a/c etc., the heat will be even worse than if you are outside, I think. Ice is also used for treating injuries, given to dehydrated people who can't even sip water without vomitting (to melt slowly in their mouths), can be melted into drinking water, is needed for makeshift refrigeration (b/c there's no power) for medicines, blood products at the hospitals, etc.

My heart goes out to them.

**Irulan** · 09-02-2005, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by drplasma64

Irulan, ice is necessary for many reasons. One being the risks of heat stroke. yes, plenty of people live in hot humid places without a/c, but to put 25,000 people in the superdome (for example) without electricity, a/c etc., the heat will be even worse than if you are outside, I think. Ice is also used for treating injuries, given to dehydrated people who can't even sip water without vomitting (to melt slowly in their mouths), can be melted into drinking water, is needed for makeshift refrigeration (b/c there's no power) for medicines, blood products at the hospitals, etc.

My heart goes out to them.

OK, I'll buy that. Sort of, as it appears nothing is making it to the hospitals.

It's beyond tragic.
Read this transcript of a CNN interview with the Mayor of NO, from this morning.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/nag...ipt/index.html

**pkq** · 09-02-2005, 10:16 AM

NO is a complex city.

I doubt Houston would be able to handle a natural disaster of this magnitude better. They had massive, deep flooding a few years ago from heavy rains, no hurricanes, simply heavy rains. They are above sea level.

I've seen flooding in other parts of coastal and inland Louisiana from heavy rains, too. They are above sea level. I've been flooded badly in two of them in Lake Charles. Water was everywhere and it was real high. We built above the 100 year flood mark by a substantial margin but still got flooded badly.

This hurricane was bigger than any rain storm lasting for days.

My sister and I have been on the Gulf of Mexico, with waves lapping at our feet as they dangled from the deck of our uncles front row beach house, when hurricanes brewed in the warm, shallow waters. Why? The area had not been completely evacuated and we wanted to see it. Many a week were spent in that beach house during Summers.

We waded through waist deep water to reach the deck. It was quite exciting because of the energy being whipped up in the gulf. The winds were high, the water was high, waves crested much higher than normal, dark clouds swirled in the skies, and hard rain was intermittent. We left in plenty of time. The hurricane blew in somewhere else so there was never any great danger. That was over 25 years ago. Would I do it again? Yep! I would. Why? Just 'cause........

There are many vulnerabilities in the U.S., natural and man-made. Danger and risk are part of life. Roll the dice and keep moving.

**bouncybouncy** · 09-02-2005, 10:38 AM

i realize there are far too many suffering but in the midst of all of the suffering and inhumanity i wanted to share a photo i saw on another forum (this is for all you animal lovers out there - and i know there are alot on this board...)

**pkq** · 09-02-2005, 10:46 AM

That is great! All isn't bad news and lost.

**bouncybouncy** · 09-02-2005, 10:49 AM

i am awaiting and searching for the article that coincides...i have to assume this is from days ago or not in the center of the disaster...but it still give you an inkling of goodwill!

**Trek420** · 09-02-2005, 11:11 AM

Aint Doody says "I have family in Hattiesburg, MS, (60 mi from Gulfport) and in their neighborhood only 1 cell phone is able to be used--no land lines."

Aint Doody, I have unlimited calls from home, if you need me to call others to let them know your peeps are ok just pm me.

Happy to do that.

**drplasma64** · 09-02-2005, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by Irulan

OK, I'll buy that. Sort of, as it appears nothing is making it to the hospitals.

True, but there are make-shift field hospitals outside the Superdome (at least, that's what I heard on the news) where they are trying to triage people and prioritize the evacuation of the sick and injured. Probably something similar at the convention center.

**Trek420** · 09-02-2005, 11:21 AM

Adventure Girl "did a search of the "Getting to know" you thread using the "search this thread" function. I tried the words Louisiana, Orleans, Biloxi and Mississippi, and I the search didn't get anything. But that doesn't necessarily mean that there aren't any TE gals there."

AG, can we ask admin to search by area? that way there may be a way to e-mail our gals.

If they are at the Astrodome we heard here that SBC is setting up call centers there to make or get calls and access e-mail.

Granted there is likely a crowd. I only know a few people in SBC Texas, trying to find out more about contact there.

I know we here are waiting for the go ahead to start sending every technician we can spare to loan to BellSouth to rebuild the phone networks and by that I mean we are waiting till it's safe for our techs.

So besides the healing the rebuilding is put off.

I'm not saying that for any love of the company (because I'm having a s****y day, I think everyone everywhere is on edge) just frustration and sadness at the delay.

**bouncybouncy** · 09-02-2005, 12:40 PM

i know alot of animal lovers are looking to donate...here is a link directly to the Houston Humane Society who is supplying refuge for our furry friends...

http://dogs.about.com/gi/dynamic/off...tonhumane.org/

**Irulan** · 09-02-2005, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by drplasma64

True, but there are make-shift field hospitals outside the Superdome (at least, that's what I heard on the news) where they are trying to triage people and prioritize the evacuation of the sick and injured. Probably something similar at the convention center.

It's hard to know what's really happening... there's what the media shows us, FEMA's version which is scarily santitized, and then there's what's really going on. It appears that today (friday) there's finally some movement, but as of last night's footage, I saw a lot of empty field hospitals outside of the city, and a lot of footage of desperate hospital situations in the city proper, with no power or water, WAITING for evacuation to the field units.

The big disconnect ( cnn)

**LBTC** · 09-02-2005, 01:28 PM

And more for those who love our furry friends: Noah's Wish has a temporary shelter set up in Slidell, LA

http://www.noahswish.org/

The news story is heartwarming. Hopefully what we start hearing on the other fronts starts getting heartwarming soon too!

say it with me:

put down your guns, let the food and water in
put down your guns, let the healing begin
put down your guns, let the rebuilding begin

Namaste,
~T~

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