Just need to vent a minute.

[cherinyc]

Wow, is that the "good" LBS or the "bad" one that sold you 4 year old shorts for list price??!! that's terrible.

actually it's the "good LBS" with the "old inventory method" I think. I don't think it was on purpose, I just wouldn't even know how to bring it up.

[bike4ever]

Have you tried the Terry High Rider short. They come in multiple sizes and are very comfortable at the waist.

[SadieKate]

sadiekate - thanks for your reply. I don't know what a PRT chamois is - is that what's in my new....uh...new for me....shorts?
I am thinking that with rsing costs - these may have been equivelant to a $100 pair of shorts today.

The shorts may have had a tag describing the chamois. It's gray and looks like corduroy. Fairly thick. I think of it as the first generation of the diaper feeling pads - but once you are on the bike, you'll never notice the diaper feel.

Chamois is one expense in a short. Number of panels, the fabric and flatlock seams are the other. A $100 pair of shorts today has some of the seams flatlocked and will have a "higher tech" fabric.

Ultrasensors today are $90 and have the front seams flatlocked. Same fabric but different chamois which some of us hate. I think of Ultrasensors (and similar shorts) as the first level of really high quality shorts. Excellent value for the money and will let you ride 100 miles in comfort.
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[FreshNewbie]

Ok since we are on the shorts topic again. I recently bought a pair of shorts from ebay Sugoi RS shorts. They are not this years model, although they look like only the fabric is not dimpled. The chamois looks totally different, when I asked the seller which year it is she said it was 2005. The chamois is purple padding on the black. It's thick and the material is sort of like suede type. Does anyone remember these shorts?

[bcipam]

Terry also has a good selection of shorts - and it sounds like you would be perfect for the Terry Hi-Rise. Because I'm tall, and for some reason manufacturers make women's jerseys so short, I have to have a hi-rise short otherwise I'm sportin' some really unsightly belly flab! Ick!
Also I am not a fan of Performance, but they will take back anything if a customer is unsatified. Without any arguments! That is the one feather in their cap.

[Veronica]

Ok since we are on the shorts topic again. I recently bought a pair of shorts from ebay Sugoi RS shorts. They are not this years model, although they look like only the fabric is not dimpled. The chamois looks totally different, when I asked the seller which year it is she said it was 2005. The chamois is purple padding on the black. It's thick and the material is sort of like suede type. Does anyone remember these shorts?

Yep I have a pair. They're okay. I won't wear them on a century - too much pad for me. But I did take them to Nova Scotia and wore them a couple of shorter days with no issues.

V.

[FreshNewbie]

Thanks Veronica, I didn't try them out yet on the bike, they do have lot's of padding ( not sure if it's good or bad for me) But I like the fact that the chamois is not as long in the back as any other shorts.

[mary9761]

Mary - you make your own? How is that possible? you must be magic or something, b/c I can't even imagine making something like bike shorts.

The bike short dilemma is never-ending. I went in to my LBS on Thursday to get some seat adjustments for an event on Staurday. My (1) pair of shorts was dirty, so I just wore comfortable shorts. The guy said I wouldn't be able to tell unless I was weraing bike shorts - (or maybe he just wanted to make me buy something). Either way - they were all expensive. I ended up getting one of the cheaper pairs ($79.99 - can you believe it? I NEVER spend that much on regular clothing).
Then I found out - when checking out the care label - that they were from Spring 2002. $80 for 4 year old shorts. Although I could've sworn that I had tried on that style (PI Ultrasensor) before and hadn't liked them. But these I liked.
More proof that they change the style, fit, sizing - every year. WHY???? Can't they just make up a new name - and let the old name/style/fit stay the same?

When you're my size, you don't have many options for shorts/jerseys etc. Also, I'm on a fixed income so I don't have $80 for a pair of NEW shorts much less 4 years old.. YIKES sounds like you got ripped off on those...
I sew, so I got a pattern and some material and make my own. My pink and black jersey is really starting to show signs of wear AND sun fade of course I wear it nearly all the time and I'm constantly washing it to keep it clean. I'm just lucky I sew or I wouldn't have any bike clothes. Now I can definitely tell a difference when I wear street clothes (ie jean shorts and skivvies) and remember every time I do it why I shouldn't OWIE!! The photo in my Avatar was from about a year ago and I made the full set.

[Bikingmomof3]

Hi Mary and nice to "meet" you!
Wow, your outfit is wonderful and you made it? My sewing machine and I do not get on well under the best of circumstances. Your cycling clothes are awesome. You do beautiful work.

[mary9761]

Hi Mary and nice to "meet" you!
Wow, your outfit is wonderful and you made it? My sewing machine and I do not get on well under the best of circumstances. Your cycling clothes are awesome. You do beautiful work.

Thanks bikingmomof3, (Jennifer, that's my youngest sister's name too) nice to meet you as well. I'm just glad that I do get along with mine. That particular outfit has a bit of a funny story to how I ended up with specifically THAT fabric. I was at JoAnnes and had that color and another with reds and looked straight at a woman in the opposite aisle and asked her, "If you were coming up to someone on a bike, which would you be less likely to hit?" She said the blue to which I responded, "Blue it is then" LOL...
Sorry to hijack the thread now back to the regularly scheduled subject.

[SandyLS]

I also purchased the Sugoi RX Flex shorts from TE after reading rave reviews on the TE forum. They are pricey, but so comfortable even after hours on the bike. There is no pulling, rubbing feeling in the crease where my leg meets my body as in some of my other shorts. The shorts have an extra little bump of padding right where my sit bones need it. The leg grippers keep the legs in place without any saussage look effect and the shorts do not shift at all as I am wearing them. The only two things I don't like are the contrasting grey stitching and the price tag, but anything that works to keep on the bike longer is worth the cost. If I could only own one pair of thke shorts it would be these.

[Cassandra_Cain]

The photo in my Avatar was from about a year ago and I made the full set.

Wow! That's a really cool outfit, I like it.

You alluded to the high cost of shorts, and that's true. Another thing though, is that we have far, far fewer choices in terms of color, style, graphics, etc in women's bike clothing than guys do. Making your own seems to take care of both of those problems in one shot~

[DDH]

Mary, your outfit is great!!! You should take up making bike outfits for the girls, I bet you could make a bundle, and lots of girls would be happy. Ecspcially us big girls who have such a hard time finding them anyway.

SadieKate, I know I should try them on there, but my LBS is in an old building with a very small bathroom in it that you can hardly move around in, so I didn't even think about trying them on there. I get a little (MONK/OCD) about some things sometimes. LOL
Plus in all honesty, I hate trying clotes in a store of any kind. I know it's crazy but I would rather take them home try them on and then take them back if need be. Some places just creep me out as far as what kind of people have been in those dressing rooms. My house isn't spotless, but at least it's only my germs and my families germs in there. LOL
I know, I'm crazy.

I did get a suprise in the mail today. A nice pair of nickers arrived to me from a very generous, understanding my dilema lady. They fit just fine, and now I will have something to wear on my ride Sat. Thank you so much, it couldn't have come at a better time.

[mimitabby]

I did get a surprise in the mail today. A nice pair of nickers arrived to me from a very generous, understanding my dilema lady. They fit just fine, and now I will have something to wear on my ride Sat. Thank you so much, it couldn't have come at a better time.

Well DDH you have some good friends! how cool!

[DDH]

It was our own Chainsoflove here on the site. She doesn't even know me and after my first post about trying to afford these items, she offered a pair she no longer uses to me.
I hope she doesn't mind me giving her a public pat on the back.

All of you ladies are great!! So much support and helpfulness and understanding.