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    Quote Originally Posted by maillotpois
    Maybe we should compare the sizes of our bedside book piles one day. Not that I'm competitive or anything.
    Is credit given for magazines?

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    Throwing down the gauntlet? 25.5 inches (I'm sitting beside it and my knitting tools, inc. tape measure, are right there).

    Editing: this does not include magazines.
    Frends know gud humors when dey is hear it. ~ Da Crockydiles of ZZE.

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    Well, now I am intrigued. While I am on the disabled list, one goal is to get ride of the last 15 pounds I need to lose. Maybe this would be a helpful jump start, especially since I am not doing 8 hours rides right now, but 1 - 2 hour a day less intensive efforts. However, I generally can't stand diets that make certain foods "bad". That's why I lean towards Weight Watchers - where you can basically have anything, in moderation.

    Does SBD eliminate permanently any of the following foods (I am okay with a week or so of cutting them out, but not for forever):

    Wine
    Oatmeal
    Coffee ( )
    Soy milk
    Pasta (whole wheat or not)
    Wheat bread
    Cereals (not lucky charms, but things like Shredded wheat, Kashi, etc.)
    Carrots
    Potatoes
    Nuts

    These are things I would not choose to live without (again, in moderation. well, except for coffee) and seem like targets in a lot of diets.

    Thanks.
    Sarah

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    Quote Originally Posted by SadieKate
    Throwing down the gauntlet? 25.5 inches (I'm sitting beside it and my knitting tools, inc. tape measure, are right there).

    Editing: this does not include magazines.

    Well, I am in a deposition right now (they are not talking about any issue I give a cr@p about right now), but I will measure when I get home. I plan to add multiple stacks together to make my total, because I have a few stacks to make them less prone to earthquake toppling.
    Sarah

    When it's easy, ride hard; when it's hard, ride easy.


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    2011 Mercian Vincitore Special
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    I can't speak specifically to the cereals, but nope on everything else. Wine and caffeine probably in moderation. He is pretty realistic.

    He simply gets you to start thinking about using foods that are processed as little as possible so that the fiber is harder to digest and eating foods which are low in sugars (Phase 1 has no corn because it contains a lot of sugar). Cut oats as opposed to rolled oats or, heaven forbid, instant oatmeal. Sweet potatoes as opposed to white potatoes. If you read the book, you'll see that the diet is really the way your grandparents ate.

    The diet keeps your sugar levels much more even and lessens cravings. I think you'll find it very practical for use in everyday life.

    I'd be happy to loan you both the SBD and the Paleo Diet for Athletes. Zen on BJ developed his own diet plan which ended up being similar to the Paleo Diet.
    Frends know gud humors when dey is hear it. ~ Da Crockydiles of ZZE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maillotpois
    Well, I am in a deposition right now (they are not talking about any issue I give a cr@p about right now), but I will measure when I get home. I plan to add multiple stacks together to make my total, because I have a few stacks to make them less prone to earthquake toppling.
    For stability, my stack is leaning against a pile of knitting books leaning against 2 boxes of knitting magazines which, in turn, are leaning against the bookshelf, and does not include books which Bubba has on his side of the bed and I'm waiting for. Can I add those books and re-measure?
    Frends know gud humors when dey is hear it. ~ Da Crockydiles of ZZE.

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    Yeah, you can add the Bubba wait list - but only if you lend me SBD and allow me to prospectively add that to my total as well.
    Sarah

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    2011 Mercian Vincitore Special
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    Sure. I haven't heard SouthernBelle weigh in.

    I vote that bicycling magazines are allowed.
    Frends know gud humors when dey is hear it. ~ Da Crockydiles of ZZE.

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    Well, sure bicycling magazines are allowed. Especially my old stack of Cycle Sports from a few years back that I was planning to re-read....

    So, SK, you are back? Trip report????
    Sarah

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    2010 Pegoretti Love #3 "Manovelo"
    2011 Mercian Vincitore Special
    2003 Eddy Merckx Team SC - stolen
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    Sarah - stay away from the Paleo diet. The only things on your list that are allowed are the nuts and an occasional glass of wine. The rest is taboo.

    And I'd bet that my bedside 'to be read' book pile tops 2 feet easily...perhaps more.

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    My bedside pile collapsed and avalanched into a debris pile that amoebas its way under my bed.

    Can we count acreage? Cuz piling it up again to measure would just be toooooo much like CLEANING.
    "If Americans want to live the American Dream, they should go to Denmark." - Richard Wilkinson

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    Quote Originally Posted by SadieKate
    Sure. I haven't heard SouthernBelle weigh in.

    I vote that bicycling magazines are allowed.
    My problem is my books and magazines are all over the house. NOT neatly and centrally located.

    I do have a nice stack of Bicycling mags by my bedroom chair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maillotpois
    Well, now I am intrigued. While I am on the disabled list, one goal is to get ride of the last 15 pounds I need to lose. Maybe this would be a helpful jump start, especially since I am not doing 8 hours rides right now, but 1 - 2 hour a day less intensive efforts. However, I generally can't stand diets that make certain foods "bad". That's why I lean towards Weight Watchers - where you can basically have anything, in moderation.

    Does SBD eliminate permanently any of the following foods (I am okay with a week or so of cutting them out, but not for forever):

    Wine
    Oatmeal
    Coffee ( )
    Soy milk
    Pasta (whole wheat or not)
    Wheat bread
    Cereals (not lucky charms, but things like Shredded wheat, Kashi, etc.)
    Carrots
    Potatoes
    Nuts

    These are things I would not choose to live without (again, in moderation. well, except for coffee) and seem like targets in a lot of diets.

    Thanks.
    None of those things are permanently eliminated. Potatoes are questionable and I seldom eat them now. Maybe french fries every week or 2. If you check out the stickies in the forum url I posted earlier, there are food lists.

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    I'm curious. Why would soy milk be off limits?
    Frends know gud humors when dey is hear it. ~ Da Crockydiles of ZZE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnottedYet
    My bedside pile collapsed and avalanched into a debris pile that amoebas its way under my bed.

    Can we count acreage? Cuz piling it up again to measure would just be toooooo much like CLEANING.
    I stack stuff. WrenchBoy lets it ooze. Entropy happens.

    When his stuff oozes into my stacks, SadieKate commits chaos.
    Frends know gud humors when dey is hear it. ~ Da Crockydiles of ZZE.

 

 

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