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[shootingstar]

well, the same old thing about appropriate wear in high schools by students.
http://news.nationalpost.com/toronto...cover-up-order

I appreciate the teen's comments. Yes, women (and growing girls) should feel free to dress neatly in clothing without worrying about being misinterpreted by men, boys, etc. At the same time, there is a reality after school, where there are somewhat tighter boundaries on what to wear on the job, depending on organization's culture, etc. Especially when coworkers and clients barely or don't know your work capabilities/skills.

I'm probably quite conservative in general on boundaries on what women in management ranks /in professional jobs, or any job on how they should present themselves in certain work situations.

[Crankin]

I am sort of the same way, but it really depends on what field you work in. No one would accuse me of dressing super conservatively, but I do have to be aware of being "triggering," to male clients. My husband works at a software company and shorts, flip flops, etc are the uniform for the developers. DH wears nicer casual wear, including stylish jeans, etc., as he feels that he needs to be a bit above the computer geeks in terms of how he presents himself. He never, ever wears a sport coat or suit, unless it's a rare occasion he is out at a trade show or client.
In the past, I have had to discuss the fact that deep cleavage and butt cracks showing when you bend over to help a student are not OK in the classroom, especially with impressionable middle school students. Both of these conversations were with younger people, who were my assistants quite awhile ago.

[rebeccaC]

Seems to me Alexi was being creatively intelligent in both her presentation prep and dealing with the administrations reaction…….it is an ART school….and among the best in Canada. From my school days to even in looking for a job, an unwavering dress code (well except safety etc) would be a control negative just on principal for me.....and i've always been somewhat conservative in how i dress.....well mostly

At my workplace and in my team we are more concerned about what’s in a persons work than what is on their body. That said if someone or a group is telling a person something they’re wearing is inappropriate then hopefully it IS a positive learning experience for all involved.

Alexi seems interesting and i like the outfit in the photo

[shootingstar]

Me, the lover of arts and lifelong dabbler in arts, only stretched the boundaries by wearing sandals over barefeet, in Nov. below freezing temperatures with a lovely black long wool winter coat. I was getting "old" in my ways at 21 yrs.

Her outfit might be on edge at our recreational centres as a student helper(?). Wouldn't go over working well in a municipal headquarters office. Our organization hires several hundred summer students annually.

Seriously, our organizations has different workplace cultures --some depts. are construction heavy working boots oriented outdoor work crews. Some depts. are predominantly male.
Sure I've worked in stricter dress areas. But it was a job experience that was atypical and worth minor expectation to be in business wear, not even long shorts....when working for the court judges. A peek into a world that not lots of people see daily. (And there were some artsy judges. The highest ranking judge did oil painting as a hobby outside, and filled his office with his creations...just wonderful.) Another judge, responsible for human rights legislation in Ontario, had her office artfully painted in bright colours with some of art collectibles.

The law clerks who worked for the judges, *****ed on the side on requirement to wear suits during hot summers. But they knew their career /resume will look good with a work term for judges.

I've made my business wear concessions for various employers, which were (to me) minor, in light of some incredible job experiences that I gained. Working at a construction site in the trailer office, in casual wear, is not always cool either...a layer of dust blowing inside and mud about the place. Even in the women's washroom.

I dunno. I am old.... everyone has their definition of edginess. Should I wear a sarong (huge wrap scarf) as a skirt on the job at my age?

[ny biker]

If one of her male classmates showed up with no shirt because he thought he looked good that way, what would happen? Would they tell him to put a shirt on? I suspect they would.

[salsabike]

Seems to me Alexi was being creatively intelligent in both her presentation prep and dealing with the administrations reaction…….it is an ART school….and among the best in Canada. From my school days to even in looking for a job, an unwavering dress code (well except safety etc) would be a control negative just on principal for me.....and i've always been somewhat conservative in how i dress.....well mostly

At my workplace and in my team we are more concerned about what’s in a persons work than what is on their body. That said if someone or a group is telling a person something they’re wearing is inappropriate then hopefully it IS a positive learning experience for all involved.

Alexi seems interesting and i like the outfit in the photo

I am more prone to this point of view. I'm trying to remember if we wore halter tops in HS--I know darn well we wore them on the weekends. High school is a whole different animal, and Alexi might well have the judgment to change her clothing to match work and other settings. And I expect her choices will change over time just like the rest of us.

The last elementary school I worked in had a uniform policy. It's not a very rigid one--there's a range of colors and choices, but one thing it did very effectively was take the whole "inappropriate dress for a 10 year old" and "I am rich and you are poor, and our clothing shows this" stuff right off the table. I think it was a great relief to a lot of the kids there.

[lph]

To be honest I can't see what appropriate dress in a workplace has to do with appropriate dress at high school at all. I wore completely different things as a teenager to school than I do to work as an adult in an office job. Some workplaces have very strict dress codes, some don't. At a workplace you deal with people of all ages and backgrounds, and what is appropriate is partly defined by what is acceptable to all.

That's not to say that there isn't an idea of "appropriate" also in high school, I just believe it's probably a lot laxer, and closer to what teens wear at home. Personally I think she looks lovely, and very inoffensive, based on MY cultural background.

[Crankin]

When I was in high school, it was a big deal that girls were finally allowed to wear pants/jeans to school! And this was at the height of the 60s.
Then I moved to Florida. The girls were wearing Villager dresses and carrying little Etienne Ainger purses. My parents brought me for my first day at Miami Palmetto HS wearing bell bottoms, a black t shirt, and very long silver dangly earrings. They were promptly told to "bring me home and change me," punctuated by the word ma'm. I thought my mom would explode.
A couple of weeks ago, one of my 16 year old female clients came to see me at 6 PM. I seriously asked her if she had worn her outfit to school. Short shorts (not really so bad) and a white, lacy, see through top, with a black bra underneath. She looked at me like, "Why not?" I am sorry, it just looked really trashy, and in any school I worked at, it would not have been OK. We laughed, as I have a really good relationship with this kid, but it was clear she didn't see why I was asking.

[lph]

Yeah, I've stopped noticing. My own colleagues don't wear headgear indoors, but my climbing friends of all ages do.

[Helene2013]

In my work environment none wear ball caps. Out of work, some do but rarely.

I wear one only when mowing my grass to cut the sun from preventing me seeing the lines I'm mowing. hihi I hate wearing one anyway. Not good for hair and retains too much heat.

I cannot stand seeing someone with a cap on all the time! No matter what their reasons can be.

[lph]

Come to think of it, I do have a coworker who wears a hat/cap indoors. She's young and cute and has a sort of artistic fashion sense, and wears a small soft beret at times. Looks nice on her and I don't think anyone would find it offensive. And come to think of it, some of the younger computer support geeks wear caps indoors.
In general I think hats or caps are a bit different from covering up "boobs and butt", more like an inoffensive fashion choice.

[salsabike]

For me, hats are a total non-issue--they don't even get on my radar screen.

[Crankin]

I don't equate the hat issue with "covering boobs and butt," either. But this was a significant on-going issue at every school i worked at, no matter where it was, starting in about 1995.
And it is a personal pet peeve of mine. Does it matter in the total scheme of things? No, but it bugs me, seems just bad manners.
But hey, I wore white gloves to parties as a kid and I made my own kids write thank you notes and no jeans to religious school... you can call me old, or old fashioned, but despite my liberal attitude about most things in life, I think everyone just looked nicer and more put together back in the day (pre 1967 or so). I know a lot of people don't care and think it's silly, but generally, I do care about stuff like this.