I did my first ride in a new pair of Gore 3/4 length tights (Power 2.0). My girly bits were SO much happier with these...and it wasn't the chamois shape or fit, but the material. It didn't seem to absorb my chamois butter, so everything stayed slippy-slidey, instead of feeling sandpapery. Wow, such a difference! I have never worn Gore bottoms, before, but I love my Gore windbreaker and I think I may have to pick up a pair of shorts, now, too. Everything ends up feeling dry and raspy and rubbed raw with every other short I have tried (and we're talking PI, Shebeest, Craft, Sugoi, LG, Giordana, Terry...lots of money spent).