P12 - randonneuring.

[KnottedYet]

$20/year. Not bad.

[jobob]

Good luck. No reason why you can't make up some routes. You just have to do it, send it in, and get it approved. Of course there are lots of RULES about how the route should work, but I guess that's part of the fun (not for me) of making a route.

Hee hee. There are plenty of rules on how to set up and run permanents!
Probably why I so enjoyed designing and running them, I'm so anal retentive.

Here's a starting point if anyone is interested. http://www.rusa.org/perminfo.html

I gave away my 200K permanent routes after my bike crash (they were too much of a hassle to maintain at that point), but perhaps I'll ease my way back into it again with 100K populaires.

Thanks for the inspiration, Mimi!

[Catrin]

Thank you Mimi! I had not heard this, and I've been working out some good targets for me this year. Last year I did fine with longer distances...until I reached 75 miles - that is when it all went to h*ll in a hand-basket and I developed my overuse injuries

Metrics are in my reach though, and once I renew my 2011 RUSA dues will determine if I want to establish a permanent here, or simply ride my favorite metric once a month unofficially. Where I tend to ride there are very few places in which to have a control.

Thanks for the encouragement

[indysteel]

Thank you Mimi! I had not heard this, and I've been working out some good targets for me this year. Last year I did fine with longer distances...until I reached 75 miles - that is when it all went to h*ll in a hand-basket and I developed my overuse injuries

Metrics are in my reach though, and once I renew my 2011 RUSA dues will determine if I want to establish a permanent here, or simply ride my favorite metric once a month unofficially. Where I tend to ride there are very few places in which to have a control.

Thanks for the encouragement

Having ridden on the NW side a lot, I could suggest at least a few. There's a gas station in Sheridan. There's also a convenience store in Whitestown. I've actually done a number of rides that hit both of those on the same ride.

One of the rides I used to do a lot, essentially started at Nebo and followed the the shop's training route (or I'd start in Broad Ripple to really get some miles). At the route's northern-most point, I would continue north to Sheridan instead of heading west. At Sheridan, I'd start heading southwest/south again toward Zionsville, ultimately getting back onto the training ride's route for a bit. I think at 156th Street, I'd head west toward Whitestown and hit the market there. Then I'd head east again back toward Nebo, ultimately getting back on the training ride route. I'm not exactly sure how many miles all that is, but it's pretty easy to add miles in and around Whitestown, i.e., by doing a loop from the market toward Lebanon. All but a few of the roads on this route are lightly traveled.

[Biciclista]

you guys are great! go for it!

[Catrin]

Having ridden on the NW side a lot, I could suggest at least a few. There's a gas station in Sheridan. There's also a convenience store in Whitestown. I've actually done a number of rides that hit both of those on the same ride.

Yep, am familiar with all of those roads - and those were the only two stores I could think of for controls so we are thinking alike I also did a route that I put together that went from the Whitestown area to Morse Reservoir, while you do have to cross a couple of busy roads all of the riding roads are very lightly traveled. Certainly some good thoughts, thanks! The store in Whitestown has limited hours of operation, but there are other ways to determine a control. I think you can even ask a question about something that is seen along the way, and I've found several unique sights that would serve well. hmmmmmmm

[indysteel]

Yep, am familiar with all of those roads - and those were the only two stores I could think of for controls so we are thinking alike I also did a route that I put together that went from the Whitestown area to Morse Reservoir, while you do have to cross a couple of busy roads all of the riding roads are very lightly traveled. Certainly some good thoughts, thanks! The store in Whitestown has limited hours of operation, but there are other ways to determine a control. I think you can even ask a question about something that is seen along the way, and I've found several unique sights that would serve well. hmmmmmmm

I've never run into a problem with their hours. I can see where it might be a problem for rides longer than 100k, but it's pretty easy to do a metric within your typical daylight hours, presumably when they're open.

I'm not as familiar with Morse. I think I've only ridden out there twice.

[Biciclista]

yeah, we had something like 6 hours and 48 minutes to do our ride. we finished in 6 hours and 5 minutes. My last 100k was close to 5 hours, but walking across ice really slows you down..

[Catrin]

I've never run into a problem with their hours. I can see where it might be a problem for rides longer than 100k, but it's pretty easy to do a metric within your typical daylight hours, presumably when they're open.

I'm not as familiar with Morse. I think I've only ridden out there twice.

That's true. I've been known to start quite early and Whitestown is close to where I typically started last year.

[indysteel]

That's true. I've been known to start quite early and Whitestown is close to where I typically started last year.

For early morning starts, you could head to Sheridan first and then to Whitestown. That's not to suggest there aren't other possible routes; I was just suggesting one that, in my mind and experience, would be pretty doable as a permanent, if you were so inclined to establish and maintain it.

[Catrin]

This is a great idea - and I am going to do it Am currently researching what I would need to do in order to establish/certify a permanent. Glad to hear that RUSA provides insurance free of charge for a permanent that owned by an individual RUSA member rather than a club.

Part of this is self-serving, yes, since I won't have to drive out of state to ride a sanctioned 100k route for the P12. HoweverI think it would be great to have SOMETHING in Indiana for RUSA members even if it isn't a full brevet. I still have the desire to do a full brevet series one day, but considering what happened last year I need to start with more modest goals and see what happens.

[indysteel]

You have my support. It's really a shame Indiana doesn't have a series. I wonder what it would take to generate some interest within the state to get a series started here. I wonder if CIBA and/or any of ther other local clubs or advocacy groups could at least explore whether there's any interest. I'd be curious other other states have gotten theirs off the ground.

[Catrin]

It would be interesting to know how many members of the Ohio Randonneurs Club live in Indiana - like me.

It will take some time to put this together, and there are recommendations on how much climbing should be in a particular route. Unsure at this point if the recommendations are just that or requirements. Obviously southern Indiana has enough topography for climbing, but it might be challenging to design a 100k route in my desired area to meet that recommendation. We will see, but I really do not want to go further afield for a 100k route as I want to be close to it.

This is going to be fun

[Biciclista]

completed my 5th 100k ride this month. have 7 more to go!

[jobob]

Excellent!