Want to build a touring bike

[Ruth and Joe]

Was hoping for some input/direction. I'm working with my LBS on a good touring bike. I'm 4 11 & 1/2 so will need a smaller frame. I thought about upgrading my 10 yr old Terry Symmetry because I love it, but it's a sports bike and it looks like it would cost as much to upgrade as it would to have them build a true touring bike. They are recommending a Surly Long Haul Trucker frame, which I've gotten mixed reviews on, some concerning the quality of workmanship. If I'm going to invest my savings ($1,000-$1,300 for the whole bike) of course I want something that will last and that I can progress to loaded touring with, my long term goal. Thanks for the help ahead of time. Ruth

[Blueberry]

Welcome!

If you search the forum, you'll find lots of folks who LOVE the LHT (as Long Haul Trucker is frequently abbreviated). I haven't heard anything negative, so I can't speak to that. I do have a Surly Cross Check (purchased second hand) that I LOVE! No problems with workmanship (but it's a cross bike, not a touring bike).

Edit to add: Here's a review: http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showt...g+Haul+Trucker

[Triskeliongirl]

If you are happy with the fit of your terry symetry, I suggest purchasing one of the new terry isis sport models, which is configured for touring and will fit you well (they are made by waterford), or if that is too pricey a used classic/madeleine that has been upgraded (or you could upgrade) to drop bars.

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

Jamis makes good quality steel touring bikes at very reasonable prices. Several TE members ride them. You might want to find out if there's a bike store near you that carries Jamis bikes.

[twin]

I have the LHT and I love the bike. I bought the pre-built model and it is great for trails, road riding and I hope touring. The steerer is uncut so you can decide how you want your handlebars and then adjust fom that point. The wheels are pretty nice for off the shelf wheels they have XT hubs. When you compare the LHT to the Bianchi Volpe and Trek 520 and others for the price the LHT has pretty good parts. Add a Brooks womens Finesse and racks and panniers I think you will be set! Leave it as it is and its still fun to ride.

[Stronglight99]

Ruth, are you riding a Symmetry with 24" front wheel? If so, please PM me ASAP, I know where there's a MUCH nicer bike for you than a LHT. - B

[Stronglight99]

Depending on what you have now on your symmetry, here's what you need to do to convert it to a nice touring bike.
1) rear rack- you can get these for $10-20 used, look around. Your symmetry has eyelets in the back for them, yes? If not, use a saddlebag instead of panniers, or get a mini-rack that bolts to seatpost or rear stays.
2) front rack- you don't need this. Use a handlebar bag.
3) You MUST keep the weight down. If you're under 5' you'll need to keep the total weight of bike and luggage under 50 lbs, better under 40 lbs, or you'll never be able to pick it up if it tips. So skip the touring accessories if you don't absolutely need them.
4) stuff you do need and should already have- spare tubes front and back, little tool kit, pump or CO2
5) triple crank with a granny gear, or compact double, if you don't already have one, and only if you plan on traveling to hilly areas. I can help you figure out the right chainrings to go with your existing rear freewheel/cassette (if you need help with that, PM me)
6) brakes- sidepulls are just fine unless you're heavy, the bike is over 50 lbs, or you intend to go offroad all the time. If you intend to go offroad a lot, you need a mountain bike not a touring bike.
7) Tires- whatever you have now is probably OK. If you want a fatter tire, put it on the front only, to get the benefit while saving weight.
7) Fenders- nice to have if you live in a rainy area, get Esges, $30
8) Lights- you need a headlight and blinky, you probably already have these.
There you are. I've converted your symmetry to a touring bike for $50. You can find panniers and handlebar bag on ebay for another $50. If you need a triple, you can find a 165 mm triple crank for $20 on ebay (I just did) and have your LBS install it if you don't want to buy a crank extractor to swap it out yourself. You don't really need to change your pedals/shoes/bars/levers/shifter/saddle if you like what you have now.
I'm sure you can find a good use for the $1400 you just saved. :-)

[KnottedYet]

Was hoping for some input/direction. I'm working with my LBS on a good touring bike. I'm 4 11 & 1/2 so will need a smaller frame. I thought about upgrading my 10 yr old Terry Symmetry because I love it, but it's a sports bike and it looks like it would cost as much to upgrade as it would to have them build a true touring bike. They are recommending a Surly Long Haul Trucker frame, which I've gotten mixed reviews on, some concerning the quality of workmanship. If I'm going to invest my savings ($1,000-$1,300 for the whole bike) of course I want something that will last and that I can progress to loaded touring with, my long term goal. Thanks for the help ahead of time. Ruth

Our own little Trek420 (she's about an inch taller than you) was blissfully toodling around on a 42cm Surly LHT this summer. Nice long wheelbase, and she didn't have any overlap issues.

I've got a Surly CC. Feel the bike love!