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    I do a lot of bean soups, using dried beans - red beans and rice with sausage, a black bean soup... Something about the soup seems to lessen the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelownagirl View Post
    OK, so just to clarify.

    I am soaking the beans overnight tonight.

    Tomorrow, I discard the water and then cook them in fresh water for X number of hours, until cooked.

    Then I discard that water and use as I would canned beans, perhaps adding some of the various herbs etc suggested?

    Thank you!
    No, you don't need to discard the cooking water. The indigestible sugars went out with the soaking water. If you're freezing them, they should be covered with the cooking liquid to prevent freezer burn.
    Last edited by OakLeaf; 12-31-2007 at 09:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelownagirl View Post
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    I am trying to eat more vegetarian meals which of course includes beans. I love them and want to eat more. Of course, I do not like the gassy results and I've tried Beano to no avail. They suggest 2-3 tabs with your first bite. 3 is not working for me. Has anyone found success? Tried more than 3 tabs?

    I've read that you can reduce the effects by presoaking dried beans and then draining them. I prefer canned beans and I like to use the liquid from the can. Would I be better off draining and rinsing them?

    Will my body eventually get used to eating more beans? When?
    It's possible that the Beano may be causing your issues. It contains mannitol, a sugar alcohol. Most people have no issues with sugar alcohols- others include sucralose (Splenda), glycerol, xylitol, malitol, sorbitol, and just about anything else you see that ends in -itol. However, a few of us (myself included), get gassy from them in small quantities, and, if you happen to eat a lot of it, can get GI upset for days while it clears from the body. So, you may want to read labels of everything you eat and drink and eliminate sugar alcohols for a week or two and see if it doesn't get rid of some gas.

    Also, rinsing your canned beans will help, as will chewing thoroughly when you eat them.
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    To De-gas beans

    I learned this method from Dr. Mirkin
    http://www.drmirkin.com/

    put 1 pound of dried beans in a big pot, bring to a boil. Turn off heat. Add 2-3 heaping tablespoons baking soda. Make sure you do this OFF HEAT - it will fizz and bubble, so do it slowly and carefully, 1 T at time if you don't want to make a mess.

    Cover the pot, and let the beans soak 6-8 hours or overnight.

    DRAIN and rinse the beans (and wash the pot). DO NOT save the soaking water - it will give you serious gas! Return the beans to the newly washed pot, add water to cover by ~ 1" and cook the beans as usual.

    Note, they they don't take nearly so long to cook now, so check them after 15-20 minutes - depending on what kind of beans you are cooking, they are done in 20-30 minutes. Drain and proceed with your recipe.

    Dr. Mirkin is a noted physician, and real-down-to-earth cyling MD and his wife is a nutritionist/registered dietitian. They espouse a diet based on fruits, vegetables, beans, and grains, and perhaps a small amount of fish, and have a lot of recipes on their website.

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    Could you just cook the beans longer if you didn't want to let them soak 6-8/overnight? Or does it take that long for the baking soda to do its magic?

    I usually bring my beans to a boil, then turn them off for an hour...then drain, rinse and cook until done. Usually much less time than 6-8 hours.

    Thanks,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuckervill View Post
    Could you just cook the beans longer if you didn't want to let them soak 6-8/overnight? Or does it take that long for the baking soda to do its magic?

    I usually bring my beans to a boil, then turn them off for an hour...then drain, rinse and cook until done. Usually much less time than 6-8 hours.

    Thanks,
    Karen
    It's the soaking interval with baking soda that neutralizes the gas in the beans, which was the original problem.

    According to the Dr. Mirkin website, bringing the beans to a boil breaks the capsules surrounding the beans and allows stachyose, verbascose and raffinose, the gas-causing sugars, to escape into the water. Adding the baking soda then makes it more alkaline. Soak overnight, then be sure to drain and rinse the beans several times before cooking them.

    Result = no gas. Works for me.

    Anyway, doing the initial boil and soak takes 5 minutes. The soaking is passive. Then the rinsing and final cooking is maybe 20-30 min. To me this is still better than cooking them for an hour.

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    Boiling and then turning off the heat is considered "speed-soaking" which just allows water to penetrate the inside of the bean quicker.

    There's no good substitute for time, allowing fluid exchange across the bean skins.

    Besides not being much help for gassiness, in my experience speed-soaking contributes to uneven cooking. (They'll still be cooked more evenly than with no soaking, but the initial boiling will partially cook them.)

    Really, try the pressure cooker, and just remember to set some beans out to soak the night before, or in the morning before work. Soak them in at least 4-5 times as much water as beans. Then cook them (with a little oil to prevent foaming) for 4-15 minutes under high pressure, depending on the type of bean and how long they've been stored. Lorna Sass has a chart in all of her cookbooks. Total cooking time (for plain beans only) including bringing to high pressure and natural pressure release is usually around 20-30 minutes. It's SO simple.
    Last edited by OakLeaf; 01-05-2008 at 02:52 AM.

 

 

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