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  1. #16
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    Pooks, I live rurally, but I still need to put my bike on the bike rack and drive to where I cycle. I live on top of a small mountain, and one would think oh wow, lots of hill training, but even though it is the 21st century my rural area has a lot of gravel roads that are very steep and the road bike can't go over such roads.

    I park at a nice state park out in the valley, about a 20 minute drive for me. There are nice restroom facilities and water faucets. The rangers patrol the park so I don't have to worry about my car getting broken into while I am gone. Where I park is popular with the cyclists and when I park I can tell instantly if anyone is out cycling that day or not. This park is a popular place to start a daily ride for my category of cyclist, which is the long distance soloist fitness/fun cyclist.

    There are trails inside the park, which are good for those riding hybrids and who cycle at a slower pace. However if you are on a road bike like me, you want the road, and you want the miles, therefore my daily rides are out of the park and the park is just used to unload and load and use the restroom facilities.

    I used Mapquest to figure out my routes. I know my starting point, and from there I can zoom in and go in all directions, seeing where roads go, how I can make loops, and how I can make larger loops, and how I can make loops within loops.

    I am like others on this thread in that I stay off of the busy roads. However there are stretches of some rural highways that don't get too much traffic, and those roads are ok to cycle. You learn these tricks by observation on your rides.

    I developed routes that enable me to circle back to my car if the wind or rain gets too fierce, or if I feel fatigued. So I have routes that can expand or contract, because once I get on the saddle and get going, unless I have a serious time constraint, I might have intended to only bike 30 miles but I can veer off at certain points and actually do 40,50 or 60 miles if I am really feeling the joy.

    I realize you will be an urban rider, which will be different types of rides. When I was younger I lived in San Francisco and there was a book titled something like "Bicycling the Back Streets of San Francisco." That book gave a lot of routes, and I learned how to cut through the Golden Gate Park, and go through the Presidio and get on the Golden Gate Bridge to bike over to Sausalito - all on my heavy steel road bike. I remembered I biked near where Alioto lived, the guy who eventually became a mayor, or maybe it was his son who became a major; he wasn't a mayor when I lived in SF. I biked all of the routes in the book, then took off from there, because this was back before the internet and Mapquest. It has to be the same in your city, bike routes developed for the back non-busy streets that may not be designated bike lanes, but will let you pedal for miles and miles without being on a busy boulevard. If you can find that book for your city, even if it is out-of-print, then you can start with the routes described in the book and after you learn those routes, go off and figure out some on your own by using Mapquest.

    Darcy

  2. #17
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    Thanks, Darcy. I can definitely ride routes in my community. Getting out of the area is dicier, with busy streets and all. That's when I'll have to start driving to other areas.

    You rode across the Golden Gate Bridge? Even thinking about that scares me!

    “Hey, clearly failure doesn’t deter me!”

  3. #18
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    Pooks, when I lived in Seattle and was just starting out, I used the paved bike path for a LONG time. Then, with my then-husband's help (he was more experienced), I started venturing out into urban traffic behind him. Later, I found I could go to it alone, and I got used to truly urban riding. I don't love that, though.

    Now I live in a more small town area, but the traffic is on the rise. It is a rather interesting thing because we literally only have one highway into town and one highway out of town. We are squished between mountains and salt water, on a peninsula. So, for long routes, it is either all the main highway, or climbing the foothills.

    Mostly my challenge is finding a route with only as many hills as I want that day. So, some days I drive my bike out to a flatter area about 30 minutes away, and I ride in the country, although still a lot of traffic.

    Other days I ride out my back door and in 5 minutes I am heading up into the national park climbing up the local mountain. That is a serious climbing day. the first 6 miles take me up 1600 feet of climbing, and it only climbs up from there.

    Other days to do the longer loops there is no avoiding the 2-lane highways, complete with RVs and loaded logging trucks. I just wear my ID, use my helmet mirror, and wear bright yellow.
    "The best rides are the ones where you bite off much more than you can chew, and live through it." ~ Doug Bradbury

  4. #19
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    Jun 2006
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    Sometimes we load 'em up and drive to somewhere we can ride, and that's fun -- we go to the "greenbelt" down by the river, and even though sometimes there's lots of foot and bike traffic, but sometimes it's just plain delightfully quiet. "out and back" on the greenbelt is a surprisingly easy 35 - 40 miles, depending on where we start. We've ridden with a group, and they usually start us out near the edge of town, and take us off into "the toolies" where we can cruise along without traffic. Varying distances, longer and longer through the summer.

    Other times, we just head out from the driveway. There are lots of subdivisions around us, and we can wander through those, usually not too fast, since there are lots and lots of intersections, not much traffic, but you gotta check! It's surprising how many miles we can go wandering "the neighborhood" on the way to the grocery store that's only about 7 miles round trip by car! We're also "on the edge" of a desert and we don't have to go very far to get to mostly deserted roads -- long, low-traffic, straight roads, some hills, where we can ride like the wind! Again, it's remarkably easy to do upwards of 20 miles if we're in the mood!

    Karen in Boise

  5. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by pooks View Post
    You rode across the Golden Gate Bridge? Even thinking about that scares me!

    Pooks, there is a sidewalk and the cyclists have to walk their bikes across the long bridge on the sidewalk. At least that is how it was when I did it, back in the mid-1970s. There was a turnstile that one was supposed to insert a dime into to gain entry to the sidewalk, but I was young and never had a dime on me so I just lifted my bike over and squeezed through the turnstile without inserting a dime. It is really awesome on that bridge, even during heavy fog.

    I prefer Oregon though. I haven't been back to California since the 1980s. The state is too populated today, and since I grew up there and remember California during less-congested times, when I travel, I go elsewhere.

    Darcy

  6. #21
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    Here's the link to routeslip for Dallas. It shows routes that others have mapped out...

    http://www.routeslip.com/discover/USA/TX/Dallas

    Of course, there are others listed separately for the suburban cities.
    If you don't grow where you're planted, you'll never BLOOM - Will Rogers

  7. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Silver View Post
    Here's the link to routeslip for Dallas. It shows routes that others have mapped out...

    http://www.routeslip.com/discover/USA/TX/Dallas

    Of course, there are others listed separately for the suburban cities.
    Very cool website...is there a way to zoom in on the maps so I can actually see the street names? or print out a cue sheet?

    Edit: Oh, I found where you can zoom in/out. Had to close the left hand pane.
    Last edited by li10up; 04-26-2007 at 07:11 AM. Reason: Figured it out.
    As we must account for every idle word, so must we account for every idle silence." ~Benjamin Franklin

  8. #23
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    Pooks... If you start at Hillcrest (Park Lane) and 635... from those soccer fields (SW corner)... that path goes all the way to the lake with 2 stops for traffic. Go down the path, around the lake and back... you rack up 24 miles.

    Otherwise, don't overlook the local bike rallies that are coming up. You can go to a bike rally and ride roads with other cyclists... but keep your speed... have a SAG if you need it and rest stops every 10 miles.
    "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather, to skid in broadside thoroughly used-up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming: WOW WHAT A RIDE!!!!"

  9. #24
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    Apr 2005
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    Quote Originally Posted by pooks View Post
    Where do YOU ride when you're putting miles on your bike? Do you have good bike routes in your community? Do you ride out of town on the highway?

    What do you do?
    I live in the country, so most of my riding is on country roads.
    Also, the two cities i live near are "provincial" and this is a rural area so we have farms, orchards and vineyards all about the place.

    I try and avoid the highways where possible, however, both councils are bike-aware and are slowly upgrading all roads to be wider, and all new roads are wider as a matter of course.

    As I write this, I realise I am fortunate to live here.


    Courage does not always roar. Sometimes, it is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying,
    "I will try again tomorrow".


  10. #25
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    Thanks to everybody for all the info -- for some reason I can get to routeslip and even joined, but the routes won't load for me. I'm on a Mac, if that makes a difference. Is anybody else having this prob?

    “Hey, clearly failure doesn’t deter me!”

  11. #26
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    Pooks,

    I can't speak to a Mac, but routeslips doesn't like my laptop. Does fine with my desktop though.

    You might also try www.bikely.com

 

 

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