Echo Trail Seatbag

[KnottedYet]

Oooh, I need this for Trek's and my Princess Tour!
http://www.velo-orange.com/ossabag.html

[uforgot]

Here is the blog where I learned of the rift between Rivendell and Frost River.

http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2006...addle-bag.html

Prom is over. $3000 in decorations, $400 dresses, $100 tux rentals for 3 hours...but I guess it's something you always remember. sigh. Now I can get back to the business of finding stuff for my bike!

[SadieKate]

If you like black or grey with real leather trim, you could get a Gilles Berthoud. This one has a stiffener in the back so it holds its shape better than the Riv Banana Bag (I have both).

http://www.wallbike.com/berthoud/saddlebag.html

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

OK....

First, Knotted, the bags pictured on FrostRiver sight are NOT Nigel Smythe bags. If you zoom in, you'll see that the logos pictured all say Frost River, not N.S. They are not "that" similar to Nigel.S. bags either. F.R. is not selling N.S. bags! Nor are they making N.S. bags. A lot of these canvas bags tend to look similar, but that doesn't mean they are necessarily breaking copywrite laws or anything.

Second- I have one of the VeloOrange "banana bag" type bags:
http://www.velo-orange.com/saddlebag.html
I am VERY pleased with it, especially since it is the only one of those "type" bags that has a strap that feeds over the top where you can slip a rolled up shirt or vest under the strap on the outside of the bag- totally adds to the storage ability. This is the bag I recommend for that reason- the strap is so handy it's even worth waiting for if it's backordered.

Just send the bag back if you don't like it. And i agree, they should update thier site with PHOTOS of the actually bag, as it appears they have made too many changes since those drawings were made. Call them and let them know.

[xeney]

I don't think it was the Nigel Smythe bags that were the point of controversy, it was the older Rivendell Baggins bags that they don't sell anymore.

SadieKate, thank you for reminding me of the Berthoud bags. I really need a small seat bag for my new single speed, and the bike is too pretty for a regular wedge bag, but I don't want something huge. There are a couple of Berthoud options that would look great.

[KnottedYet]

Second- I have one of the VeloOrange "banana bag" type bags:
http://www.velo-orange.com/saddlebag.html
I am VERY pleased with it, especially since it is the only one of those "type" bags that has a strap that feeds over the top where you can slip a rolled up shirt or vest under the strap on the outside of the bag- totally adds to the storage ability. This is the bag I recommend for that reason- the strap is so handy it's even worth waiting for if it's backordered.

Thanks, Lisa. I think the main thing is that what Uforgot saw on the website is not what she recieved, and she can't get ahold of FR to discuss sending it back. I still can't get FR to come up again on my Mac... I got all confused over who made what, but I know the pics on FR's site don't match what Uforgot recieved.

I love the strap on the VeloOrange bag, and the loops on the NS bag to add a strap or two. What great ideas!

[uforgot]

I finally communicated with Frost River. They said ship it back, no problem. We'll see if they reimburse shipping like I asked.

I went with the Carradice Barley for those days when I have more to carry. Thanks for the recommendation Xeney! I think a bag that holds a bottle of wine will be handy at some point! I'm also going to wait for Rivendell to get the tan seat pouches in as Knotted indicated they were much nicer!

Many thanks for all of the help! No way could I have learned so much on my own. Knotted and Trek SAW the bags and both described them for me. (And their pics were soooooo much better than an inaccurate artists sketch) I have a much better feel for what I'm buying from Rivendell. Others pointed me in other directions and it is much appreciated!