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    Quote Originally Posted by Cali Sunshine View Post
    yes they are so why do they get all the attention. i mean the men get the bigger sponsors and get more spectators and people take them more serious and all that.
    Maybe its their proffessional bibs and sporty helments.

    i'm jealous/envious of how the men get all the good accolades and credit for cycling.
    Maybe you've been hanging around the wrong places.

    When Life hands you a bunch of accols....make accolade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluetree View Post
    Cali,

    Your post made me a bit uncomfortable, the way you describe it. I'm not disagreeing that it happened that way, I just haven't come across too many men who still harbor those outdated, macho ideas. My cycling group includes crit racers, cyclo(psycho)cross riders, Ironmen, and guys who have completed Breathless Agony, Badwater and Death Ride. If anything, they have an utmost respect for women cyclists and have all been humbled (at one time or another) by some of the female pros in the area. Hard to make fun of "mere girls" when its Hillary Biscay http://www.bikesportmichigan.com/edi.../0000062.shtml blowing past you.
    I hope it's just indicative of their relative youth, and something they will soon outgrow.

    Congrats for the great ride!

    P.S. PLease introduce yourself in Open Topic > Getting To Know You thread!
    I don't exactly understand what you mean (about it making you uncomfortable).

    I do agree, it did sound a like cliche male "macho" stereotypes, and to clear the record, most men are not like this. The majority of men from my experience (98%) are not like the men I described.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa S.H. View Post
    Golly Cali, were they wearing all THAT?? What kind of weather was it, and weren't they too hot wearing all those proffessional-looking bibs, shorts, capris-knickers and tights?? Maybe the weight of all that was too much for them.
    Weren't you girls wearing "sporty helmets" too? If not- you're gonna konk your noggin' one of these days!

    Impressive how you and "a few of the girls" turned those "arrogant, pompous, overly-confident, and full of pride" boys into "visibly broken, defeated, sweat-drenched, humiliated, shocked, and embarrassed" mere shadows of their former selves in just 10 miles! Utterly AMAZING!!
    It's so amazing that it almost sounds like a story that a guy might imagine girls would be wanting to hear about....

    Lisa, what in the WORLD are you talking about??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cali Sunshine View Post
    I don't exactly understand what you mean (about it making you uncomfortable).
    While I support the empowerment of women to compete on the same level as men (and I work in one of the few professional sports where women do) I do not condone antagonism between the sexes. Your story contained a bit too much venom for my comfort.

    Sure, "a group of guys rolling by laughing" is completely unacceptable. But is it acceptable to gloat over competitors who are "broken, defeated, sweat-drenched, humiliated, shocked, and embarrassed?"

    Sportsmanship goes both ways. Grace is not the private domain of either gender, and should apply to everyone... in defeat or victory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluetree View Post
    Sure, "a group of guys rolling by laughing" is completely unacceptable. But is it acceptable to gloat over competitors who are "broken, defeated, sweat-drenched, humiliated, shocked, and embarrassed?"
    OH, I know this answer! It's yes when it's in response to people like the "men" who rode by laughing and making snide remarks. Sorry, but you gotta be able to take what you give. Is it the most gracious thing to do? Maybe not. I suppose it would be easier to sit on my high horse and judge people if I were perfect all the time. But then, perfection is highly overrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cali Sunshine View Post
    Lisa, what in the WORLD are you talking about??
    Well to speak honestly, the story seems very carefully crafted to elicit "yeah, aren't men just awful" responses from women. The writing style seems somehow familiar- have you been a member before? It's usual to introduce yourself on the "Getting to Know You" thread.
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    It's not about perfection, it's about maturity. And I agree with Lisa. It sounds like a phishing expedition for "anti-man" comments. If that's the game, it's one I'll sit out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa S.H. View Post
    Well to speak honestly, the story seems very carefully crafted to elicit "yeah, aren't men just awful" responses from women. The writing style seems somehow familiar- have you been a member before? It's usual to introduce yourself on the "Getting to Know You" thread.
    I was a member here a little over a year ago. For the life of me I couldn't remember my password or the e-mail account I was using at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluetree View Post
    While I support the empowerment of women to compete on the same level as men (and I work in one of the few professional sports where women do) I do not condone antagonism between the sexes. Your story contained a bit too much venom for my comfort.

    Sure, "a group of guys rolling by laughing" is completely unacceptable. But is it acceptable to gloat over competitors who are "broken, defeated, sweat-drenched, humiliated, shocked, and embarrassed?"

    Sportsmanship goes both ways. Grace is not the private domain of either gender, and should apply to everyone... in defeat or victory.

    Maybe I did have some "venom." Maybe I was angry. And yes we gloated but they deserved it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cali Sunshine View Post
    I was a member here a little over a year ago. For the life of me I couldn't remember my password or the e-mail account I was using at the time.
    Your writing style and content remind me very much of a guy who was briefly a member here last month.
    Again, why don't you (re)introduce yourself to us all on the "Getting to Know You" thread? It's considered customary on this forum.
    Last edited by BleeckerSt_Girl; 10-25-2006 at 11:19 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cali Sunshine View Post
    I was a member here a little over a year ago. For the life of me I couldn't remember my password or the e-mail account I was using at the time.
    I didn't notice any rules against re-introducing yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SadieKate View Post
    I didn't notice any rules against re-introducing yourself.
    I didn't notice any rules against not re-introducing yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cali Sunshine View Post
    I didn't notice any rules against not re-introducing yourself.
    Well now that you've started another thread supposedly about how your boyfriend liked wearing your smelly used biking shorts, I think it's now obvious that you are the same (teen?) male who got thrown out of here last month, the one who started that lame thread about peeing while riding your bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa S.H. View Post
    Well now that you've started another thread supposedly about how your boyfriend liked wearing your smelly used biking shorts, I think it's now obvious that you are the same (teen?) male who got thrown out of here last month, the one who started that lame thread about peeing while riding your bike.
    uhhh... for one, i didn't say my boyfriend "liked" wearing my cycling shorts. he was more-or-less nonchalant and acted like wearing someone's used clothing is normal. which is i guess how a lot of guys are. me personally would never do something like that.

    and i never saw any thread about peeing on a bike seriously please and have no idea what you're talking about stop harrassing me thanks. i'm just here to participate in the forum, share advice, and share adventure stories.

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    This situation would easily be resolved if the moderator would check the IP address...
    Just keep pedaling.

 

 

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