Tour question

[sonicmolasses]

I know this has probably been explained elsewhere here, so I apologize for its redundancy, but can someone explain Stage 20 and how Landis is very likely to win even though he just has a 59 second lead (doesn't he just rock??)?

Thank you!

[slinkedog]

It's one of the unwritten rules of the TdF that no one attacks on the final stage. It's more like a parade and everyone drinks champagne and all that. It's all about the sprinters on the Champs Elysees (I hope I spelled that right!)

[sonicmolasses]

But it can be a real race, can't it? Didn't Lemonde upset the yellow jersey in stage 20 one year? It's 154 km-- is that all a formality?

[slinkedog]

The year Greg Lemond won on the final stage, the final stage was a time trial. As far as I know (without doing any research), a lead has never been lost when the final stage went into Paris.

[sonicmolasses]

Ah. Thank you.

[dobielover1]

It's still a fun stage to watch..the sprinters still go all out.

[tulip]

The year Greg Lemond won on the final stage, the final stage was a time trial. As far as I know (without doing any research), a lead has never been lost when the final stage went into Paris.

I don't think the final stage has ever been a TT. The final stage is very ceremonial in Paris, with the about 50k circuit around the Champs Elysees for max ceremony and sponsor time. Crowds line the streets 5 and 6 deep, all chanting and singing.

1989 Greg Lemond beat Laurent Fignon by 8 seconds--for the whole Tour. That's coming in 8 seconds faster than Fignon after more than 2200 miles, pretty amazing. Lemond made up the time in the TT before the last stage, much like this year. Team tactics come into play--it is very difficult for the front guys to break away when the lead guy's team doesn't let him. The peleton goes alot faster than a single break, that's why you hear about the peleton "reeling in" the break away groups.

So it would be very difficult for Landis to lose, but if he has a mechanical breakdown or a crash, well that might be different. His team would do all they could to slow down the two Spaniards who are in 2nd and 3rd, though.

Not to worry, though. There are plenty of primes, and it's a big deal to win the final stage, so there's always a good sprint at the end, sometimes with big crashes. I was in Paris and saw the final stage crash the year that Indurain first won.

I hope that helps explain things a bit. In short, Phonak will not let the other guys break away tomorrow, thereby protecting Floyd's lead and victory.

[SadieKate]

While it wasn't for the overall GC, remember that Vinokourov bumped Leipheimer into 6th place afrer attacking for time bonuses. There was a controversy because Leipheimer's director told him that the race officials had decided not to award bonus due to the rain, for safety reasons.

[slinkedog]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tour_de_France

The final stage into Paris in 1989 was a time trial. The only time, ever, I think. Edited to say that there has never been a time trial for the final stage since 1989.

[RoadRaven]

Isn't it fabulous that Thor Hushovd one into Paris?

To won the first and last stage... thats really special

And of course, my fave GEM (Goofy-Elf Man) with THE yellow jersey

What a ride this Tour was.

Did I say I was thrilled for Hushovd?

[tulip]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tour_de_France

The final stage into Paris in 1989 was a time trial. The only time, ever, I think. Edited to say that there has never been a time trial for the final stage since 1989.

You are right. I thought it was odd. I watched that race, but back in those days, we got one hour of coverage per week. Here's the info from the official Tour history. Sorry if you don't read French. It goes on to say that Lemond used a time trial setup for his bike. Prior to that, racers just used their normal bikes. Now everyone has specialized TT bikes. Interesting.

La veille de l'arrivée, le Français possède 50 secondes d'avance sur l'Américain qui le domine dans la dernière étape contre la montre et gagne le Tour avec 8 secondes d'avance : le plus faible écart jamais enregistré. Meilleur Jeune : Philippot.

[caligurl]

plus the last stage is flat... so it would be difficult to maintain a breakaway.... the peleton would have you reeled back in quickly!

and yep.... lemond won with a time trial as the last stage! they joked that there hasn't been a time trial finish since cuz the french didn't want another incident of a frenchman laying on the ground crying in agony (i thought they were kidding until they showed the footage... and he WAS! i mean i'm sure they were kidding about that being the reason for not having a TT finish.... but they sure weren't kidding about him crying and writhing on the ground!)

[RoadRaven]

*ignores academic discussion going on...*

*does happy dance*

Thor one with a power surge and Floyd has the yellow

OK... settling down now... back to historical facts again... sorry...